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Re: Do you think there is a market for your MOCs on eBay? Please discuss...
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Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:56:20 GMT
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In lugnet.market.theory, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.market.theory, Brian Kasprzyk writes:
In lugnet.market.theory, Doyle Nelson writes:
In lugnet.market.theory, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.market.theory, Doyle Nelson writes:
In lugnet.market.theory, Brian Kasprzyk writes:

Please also note that Guild of Bricksmiths (not "Brick Guild") is a
trademarked name and should have a TM after it when first mentioned (or
somewhere on the page)... thanks!

Bricksmiths
Bricksmiths
Bricksmiths
Bricksmiths
Bricksmiths
Bricksmiths
Bricksmiths

So sue me.

Interesting that you would call it a 'temper tantrum' without even knowing
me.

He was echoing the sentiment I expressed, I think. And when you look at your
initial words (which I left, for reference while snipping all else away) on
this topic, I think it was a fair sentiment. Stamping your foot and saying
"so sue me" adds nothing of value to the discussion but certainly showed
your pique.

We have a trademark we have worked hard to establish. We are in an
asymmetrical situation, we have to protect that trademark if we want it to
have value, and we do. The law is clear, to protect it, we have to assert
that it is a trademark. We don't necessarily have to insist that everyone
honor it every time, but we have to show a good faith effort of assertion.
Occasionally reminding people that it is a trademark in the avenue where it
gets the most publicity is the LEAST we can do. Sorry if that gets up your
nose but that's just the way it is.

My assertion started with "please", used "should" instead of "must", and
merely stated facts. It even ended with a "Thanks!". No statements about
suing anyone or any threats or anything like that. Certainly if you have a
milder way of making the assertion, I'm open to suggestion.

Please separate that Guild of Bricksmiths(tm) trademark protection effort
(that we bricksmiths MUST engage in) from any comments about making
LUGNET(tm) a better place. The two issues have no relationship whatever, no
matter how some may try to link them.

While some people may well be annoyed that there are people trying to help
with the effort of making LUGNET a better place, and even a few twits who
actively undermine it with non constructive sniping every chance they get,
there are, I suspect a lot more that are glad of it, including many who have
said so publicly.

You are completely missing the point. You are one of the "twits who actively
undermine it with non constructive sniping". Read Brian's words addressed to
you again (the ones you have deleted):

==+==
My whole point was simply to point out that many of us out here on
Lugnet(tm) ;-) are tired of Larry and his 'know it all attitude' and
personal way of always trying to control EVERY SINGLE thread that goes
beyond 4. This is not the first, and I'm sure, not the last that people are
going to get irritated with Larry.  I can recall over a dozen instances
where people, on this site, have complained about Larry and his 'policing of
Lugnet.
==+==

But I, and others, have made our views clear on "policing" before - there is
no real point in doing so again:
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=9989

Scott A



FUT admin.general if you want to discuss the larger issue of whether making
LUGNET a better place is a good thing to do or not. I stand behind my
efforts to do so and believe I and the others engaged in it (of which there
are several) have broad support. I just wish more people would do the gentle
reminding that is needed in that context instead of leaving it to a few. If
more people did gentle guidance, more often, perhaps it would not be so
worthy of remark.

If you have more to say about the trademark issue itself, I'm not sure where
to suggest you FUT.



Message has 2 Replies:
  Community Policing is a Good Thing(TM) (Was: Re: Do you think there is a market)
 
(...) I wasn't going to get into this, but your post really makes me sick. I just read the thread history of this..... setting the Bricksmiths issue aside [1], I'd like to discuss the issue of community policing, and how it is a Good Thing(TM). (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general)  
  Re: Do you think there is a market for your MOCs on eBay? Please discuss...
 
(...) Scott, Here is what I've taken from your post: 1. Larry is a twit because he missed the point (which was....?). 2. You want to point out that you are tired of Larry's attitude 3. You want to point out that you are tired of Larry's control over (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jan-02, to lugnet.admin.general) !! 

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