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  Train Idea Book?
 
Hi all, since I'm new to Lego Trains, I need some help, please. Is there a Lego Idea Book about trains? Anyone knows how to get a copy of it? Are there websites about designing & building tracks? Thanks Giulio giuliof@iol.it (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: hills and grades
 
[ FUT lugnet.trains ] Paul Sinasohn: (...) You just put plates under your track. There is a piece on this topic at the Train Depot[1]. Play well, Jacob 1) <URL:(URL) ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
 
  hills and grades
 
Frank Filz and Brian Darrow posted messages about building trains powerful enough to handles grades, but I'm wondering how you would actually lay track to start up a hill. Has lego ever made uphill or downhill curves, like you would find at the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
 
  Re: Any exciting layouts using the new crossover?
 
David Graham <david@graham167.fre...rve.co.uk> wrote in message news:FHt4to.MoI@lugnet.com... (...) If exciting includes trains wrecks then my layout is much more exciting! Scott Smallbeck scotts@contactics.com (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Any exciting layouts using the new crossover?
 
With the introduction of the new crossover 4515, has anybody designed any exciting (compact) layouts using them. I was diapointed with the standard designs on the in-set leaflet - just the same ones as the 12V crossover. (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: And a new hopper car
 
(...) Sorry, I was referring to the KCS (Kansas City Southern Lines) custom hopper/gondola cars they built. (...) Yes, drop-bottom gons are another hybrid type, but different. Those were literary gons whose bottoms dropped [1]. The hopper/gondola I (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: And a new hopper car
 
(...) What do you mean by "these" in this context? I mention a lot of car types. cars in coal fields in Kansas and Arkansas and (...) I know that drop bottom gons were used in MOW service a fair bit, they are capable of carrying ballast and dumping (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  from RTL ... a roundhouse
 
copied from RTL Subject: Engine Roundhouse Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:25:28 +0200 From: Reinhard Beneke <r.beneke@tu-bs.de> Organization: TU Braunschweig, Germany To: r.beneke@tu-bs.de Newsgroups: rec.toys.lego Hi all! I've just finished modelling a (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: And a new hopper car
 
KCS (?) used these cars in coal fields in Kansas and Arkansas and presumably intended them as dual-purpose equipment. They were built in the company shops in Pittsburgh, KANSAS and were used in service until the '80s. As for other lines using this (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  sliding doors revisited
 
Although I have several of the train door sliding type 1 (URL) I really like what others have done with the non operating doors set out 1/2 brick. I came up with the following way to hang a 1x8 brick door flush against a wall, and yet allow it to (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: And a new hopper car
 
Hmm... not sure I agree. At least not totally. It's muddy, and different railroads use different terms, as do different car manufacturers. I spent some time chasing my tail starting from www.nmra.org but didn't come up with anything definitive. I (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: And a new hopper car
 
Frank Filz wrote: What you have failed to consider is the hopper/gondola hybrid, which looks like a cut-off hopper car. Of course, I would defer to Lar for definitive details;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: OK and another Boxcar
 
(...) Must have misunderstood me. Those ladders are even farther from the mark, IMHO. Try going back to the plate with side rod, but put a brick between each two "rung" plates instead of just a plate. Or at least 2 plates between each two rungs... (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: And a new hopper car
 
(...) The most definitive thing I see as characterizing a gondola v.s. a hopper is that hoppers are tall and gondolas are short. Gondolas with bottom doors/chutes are usually refered to as drop bottom gondolas. (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  OK and another Boxcar
 
Hi All, When it feels good build and keep building. However I think these colors don't work as well. Black is a really hard color to model with. But I strut the green stripe. I come from the old days when green was rare and orange didn't exist! I (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: And a new hopper car
 
(...) It's probably a gon. I think the defining characteristic of a hopper is that it has bottom doors. However there is some muddyness... In particular, you often will hear unit train cars called hoppers, but they have no bottom doors/chutes, they (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: And a new hopper car
 
(...) Yup, that would be a gondola. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: And a new hopper car
 
Larry shield: Is this a gondola not a hopper??? SteveB Steven Barile wrote in message ... (...) fact (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  And a new hopper car
 
Hi all, I just added a couple shots of a new hopper car. Not much to it, in fact I'm sure I saw this technique before, but I'm not sure who from. The only stroke of gray matter is the gray stripes, they seem to set off the thin wall bricks. My last (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
(...) Taryton. But not old enough to remember how to spell it;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
The flag "ice block door" is an interesteing detail I hadn't thought about. I'll give it a try. SteveB (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
Sorry for the confusion This is the full URL (URL) it doesn't work try going to www.pnltc.org or directly (URL) Thanks for all the interest. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
Interesting - I'm using Navigator 4.06 and I get a "Your browser is forbidden to access this page" error Is Steve limiting access to IE only? Paul Sinasohn, who would rather fight than switch (and is anyone else old enough to remember that slogan?) (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
(...) His hyperlink didn't work:-) Click here> (URL) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
(...) Excuse my ignorance, but what do I do with this address? (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
(...) week. (...) Worked on a modification to the roof-line: both above the front control cab and above the upperdeck windows. Pictures at above link. For the area above the front control cab, I wanted to try to get the gray color to "drop" down to (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
(...) later, James Mathis (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
(...) I think I'd use the 2x2 flag attached to one of those 1x2 plates with side rod and just have it sit on top of the sloped roof. Not very precise but conveys the notion. (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
(...) I couldn't get a look at it so can't answer now. (...) "dubbledekker" (...) Dutch (...) The Dutch railways operate two types of doubeldeckers. One type (for 'long' distances[1]) is pulled by the dutch loco which James build (1600 series- off (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
Nice box cars, Steve. I like the doors and use of the tiles. It looks like the doors really slide open. Ashley (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
(...) that if this is a modern reefer, there should be some sort of cooling unit built in. On the older reefers, there would be hatches in the roof for ice, those could be easily replicated on a flat roof, but I'm not so sure about a peaked one. On (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
I still like the door open trick. It makes me beleive that the doors really open and close! Keep using those decals. Compare the State of Maine box car and the Union Refrigerated cars; same design, but the State of Maine box car is a LEGO plain (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
Nice. Very nice. Except for those pesky decals. :-) one nit... the grab irons (on the right side) are too close together. They should be spaced the spacing of a widely spaced ladder rung. (yes, I know that's the spacing of the minifig ladder, but (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
(...) Ooops, sorry. Erhm...maybe it is this Dutch locomotive? (URL) down on the above web page to see a picture of Marklin's model of this Dutch locomotive. The European Railway Picture Gallery probably has some photos of this locomotive, but it (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
(...) that (...) shop (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New box cars
 
(...) I really like the color scheme on these models. The detail with the Technic pieces on the trucks is A+ and different. Good. later, James (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
(...) That is my model of the "Starlight Express" Marklin paint job on a DB locomotive. (URL) used the 4559 Cargo Railway front-ends with matching bottom front ends from the ResQ hovercraft set. I actually don't really care for the pointy nose that (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
What is that at the end of the train in that pic. It vaguely looks like an American "B" unit switcher (I'm sure it's not)???? BTW I had taken a trun at a double-decker as well at: steve.bar.home.att.net SteveB (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  New box cars
 
I built a new set of box cars. Love to get some feedback. steve.bar.home.att.net SteveB PNLTC (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
(...) Eric, Is this the Dutch train style you're modelling? (URL)I took pictures but they are still in the camera on an unfinished roll; (...) I'm looking forward to seeing your new train model. I'm fortunate enough to have two friends who have Sony (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
James, We're really on the same track ;-) I've just build a first version of a Dutch double decker train a couple of weeks ago, which strikingly resembles your train, with very different colors, though. I took pictures but they are still in the (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Members wanted for Subconsortium
 
We at the Northern Virginia Lego Train Club would really like to join the consortium of people trying to purchase Train Doors and Windows from TLG. Unfortunately, we do not have enough money, so we were wondering if there was anyone who wants to (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
(...) I keep wondering if I will ever be able to try to model something US train-related. Maybe it's the "Danish" in the brick that keeps me European? ;-) (...) Personally, I find the double decker train appearance somewhat elegant. Well, not all (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
I dunno, James. That is some funky looking train. I mean the prototype! Your model captures what is a pretty weird train pretty well. Exceedingly well, actually. Why the white tiles on the trucks?? To get the right look when it's not sitting on a (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  New attempt at Double Decker Train
 
Made a little attempt at a German double decker passenger train this past week. Pictures through (URL) link to "what's new" later, James Mathis (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
(...) The fact that I agree with you about current quality level does not in any way disprove my thesis. If you actually understood the scientific method instead of cheering sproat when he takes pot shots at it, you'd have a better chance of doing (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
(...) I think standard container lengths are 20, 40, 48 and 53. There might also be 28 footers. These are also standard semi trailer lengths. Paul (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.build, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  A few more pics of LEGOLand Denmark
 
Hi All, FYI There are a few more pics from LL on my web site, including some (LEGO built, but still disputed purity) train pics. SteveB steve.bar.home.att.net (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
(...) Ah, yes. Trains. Consider the last two offerings -- 3225 and 4561 [1]. Truly I say unto you that the *only* good things about those sets are the windows. I'd rather have the entire train line discontinued in exchange for train window packs if (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
(...) 10 for width yes. Container height and length vary. 40 used to be standard but there now are 20s, 30s, 40s, 44s and 50s I believe. I dunno what the standard height is. However my point is simple, 10 feet is the width of a container, it's also (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.build, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
Larry Pieniazek: (...) Ain't containers 10 by 10 by 40 feet? Play well, Jacob (the multi-width guy :-) ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.build, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
It loaded fine for me here at work, but I know for a fact it won't load at home, even though I am using Communicator 4.61 at both locations, both on NTWS 4.0 SP4. The reason I know it won't load at home, even without trying? Xoom. If you have a (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.build, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
That link's bad. Either you typed it wrong or xoom is duffing it right now. (or something...) (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.build, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
(...) I made a more scaled container awhile back. check out (URL) I have since changed the car that carrys the container, to a shared bogie unit. With 4 containers long stacked two containers high. Pictures to come soon I hope. Dave (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.build, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
(...) Yes, they are a bit wider, that is true. But the extra width can be as little as 4 inches a side (in fact on some spine cars it's 0) which in a total width of 10 feet is less than LEGO resolution. That's not even a plate on its side, much less (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.build, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
(...) But containers aren't the same width as the cars. The containers go in drop well cars so the cars have to be wider than the containers. More fuel on the fire.... Paul (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.build, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New models of Semi Trucks etc.
 
(...) well, modesty IS a virtue and I've got them all, but I digress. Trucks should be the SAME width as trains, at least the trailers should be. Take a look at a container, and a boxcar sometime. To LEGO resolution, same width. Those 4 wide (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.build, lugnet.general, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: tables (wasFirst Meeting of NOVALTC!
 
The 6-tracklength width of the tables is indeed a fundamental issue as it essentially determines the number of parallel lines without adding extra tables. Member Will Chapman used gargantuan 40x90inch tables for a few years before PNLTC formed. At (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains.org)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) this (...) for (...) due to (...) Unless (to give Mark the benefit of the doubt) he reads by e-mail and doesn't subscribe to the .trains group. In which case he only would have seen the last half (or so) of the thread. James (URL) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Hi all... I've been following this as well as the Secrets Revealed thread and have decided too open my mouth at the risk of saying something stupid... 1) Is anybody "Really" surprised that a bulk part ordering service was available to some? I mean (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) That's extremely offensive. YOU auction things to make money. You could just as easily describe what I do (buy lots of copies of sets on clearance, keep what I want out of them, then auction the rest) as "flogging" the rest of you for a (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Paul Foster <pfoster@execpc.com> wrote in message news:37C97602.C9458A...cpc.com... (...) spread (...) You must not have read this thread all the way through. Parts would only be ordered in lots that TLG would be willing to do it for. Adam (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) Hrmmm, strictly from the technical side of things, your ISP shouldn't even begin to enter into the "threads" equation here on Lugnet. Since there is only ONE server that carries the threaded discussion groups, if you can connect and read any (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
It would appear that as normal my ISP is isn't getting all the threads about this thing, and I'm therefore getting the wrong impression. I wish to apologize for sounding ungrateful to people like Larry who's actions I have misinterpreted due to not (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
It would appear that as normal my ISP is isn't getting all the threads about this thing, and I'm therefore getting the wrong impression. I wish to apologize for sounding ungrateful to people like Larry who's actions I have misinterpreted due to not (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) The above statement appears to be the whole problem with your proposal. I predict you will get 100 different people who want a total of 95 different parts, leaving your deal to die due to lack of interest. I think the train deal will work (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) My two cents worth( admittedly not much but :::shrugging shoulders:::: what the the hey...) I am not a train head either, but any part can be used in any model :) . I am still what I consider a "novice" to the art of Lego so please allow me a (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) You're wrong, near as I can tell. Christer (ER, not IAN) told me he was getting bombarded with mail, told me that too much uproar would sour the deal and get his friend in trouble and cause it not to happen. Keep it up. (...) Go ahead. No one (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) I think your repeated mean spirited posts are what is slimy here. Why not let the blood pressure drop for awhile? This is the first *possibility* of an order from TLG so why do you want to push it? Please just wait and see how and if it goes (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Hi Adam, I think its all academic until we know the price per part or per run of a part. What we then need is not a pledge of money but of the number of each part people want and therefore how many runs of that part will be needed. This consortium (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Let me start this out by saying I am NOT a trainhead, yet I hope to be in on this deal, because believe it or not, train windows/doors can be used for other purposes ;-) I also know nothing more about the deal that what has been posted in here, but (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Hi Larry, Its always good to get ones intentions out in the open. My concern is that someone has encouraged Christian in Denmark to deal with people in the 500 club to the exclusion of all others, tell me I'm wrong. Why can't interested people put (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7sgvsb.7be....UTK.EDU... (...) I (...) what's (...) us. (...) Neither do I. My main reason for sending out the suggestion was to ensure a better success rate. IMO as money offered (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37C8AAA8.7AE750...ger.net... (...) (Snip) (...) No, I've never done a large deal before, but I don't see the flaws. Could you point them out so they could be corrected? As far as the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) Except for the fact that I have spoken to Christer on the phone one time, and that he faxed me some information from TLG, both facts being things that increased my confidence that this might happen, but which added no other information, (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) I'm just a bystander here (not participating in the consortium) so I'm not in possession of many facts, but it's worth noting is that the discussion actually started 5 days ago in .trains and has only recently wandered into other groups like (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Sub Consortium - $50 each (Was: Train doors and windows)
 
I would like to create a sub-consortium of 10 people commiting $50 each. If you are interested please send me email at asherk@pobox.com. I will take the first 9 people and no more. See the below email for details. -- Asher ======LarryP Said===...=== (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) Just to be clear, either you don't agree with me or I'm misunderstanding what you're saying here and later on. I have absolutely NO desire to change, adjust, alter, or anything else, this deal going through with Larry's coordination. He's only (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
The parts are train doors (L & R), 2x3 and 4x3 train windows, the glass to go with the windows and doors (these are separate #'s), and old-style sliding doors as in 7722 (I think) and accompanying track pieces. Color is unknown, at least to me, but (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Matt, I am probably interested in your "sub-consortium" but I still haven't figured out what parts are in question. Depending on how many of the parts I actually want makes a big difference on how much I am willing to pitch in. So, could someone (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Hi LUGNET Community members, Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7sgjqo.7ai....UTK.EDU... (...) I was going to pledge $500 towards this idea, but when I discovered we were not going to be able to even suggest parts, that (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) Well, outside of the specifics of the private contract between the consortium members, I think this whole topic is of a potentially HUGE interest to just about everyone who reads here. Unless I throw my $500 in I don't care what you pay per (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) Probably neither. It's a group willing to take a risk to satisfy their own needs, and then make available the surplus to those not willing to take that risk through a fair allocation method, that is, what the market will bear. The amount (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Answered offline. I won't be discussing this publicly. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) I'm willing to pool funds to form a "sub-consortium" with those not ready to commit the full 500. (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) Pardon the ignorance, but is the RISK? You get your money back if the deal falls thru or you get the parts from lego, where's the risk? Mark H (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Hey Larry, This consortium, is it a group of like minded cashed up profiteering middle men or a group who are genuinely trying to get the best deal for the rest of us? Just curious. So if the price per piece is > $1.00 and < $5.00, is it closer to (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
OK, it's time for another update. I am copying Christer, who is weekending in Germany, as well as several LUGNET(tm) groups. The following facts may be of interest - A consortium is forming to create the largest order we can. - I am the lead partner (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 
  Re: Remote switching points
 
(...) Hi Brian, interested in an remote controlled point ??? visit my home page and go to the section 'Trains & Cars & ...' (URL) Frankly, the fact that all these cool features that existed for the 12v (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Remote switching points
 
(...) Pictures of some sort would help. I think it should be a web page. If you send me the pieces (pics, and the above text, maybe the rcx proggie), I'll put together a page for it on (URL) lego.gerf.org is not functional yet. I plan on adding a (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Or even Red ones???? (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
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  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Yes. If you wish to get the consortium price you have to participate in the consortium. Those not willing to risk enough of their funds will not reap the reward of paying less than the market will bear. (or take the risk of losing their funds (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) about (...) No, the consorttium would SELL them first. Then auction off the leftovers. You don't have to do anything. Patricia Schempp (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) So, in other words, If I want to buy the items rather than participate in the auction, I have to put up $500? I'm just trying to figure out how I'd go about getting items I want. :) Jeff (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
A consortium is being assembled. Stuff will be sold at one price within the consortium. To make allowances for people wanting more, or less, parts than the dollar amount they invested, that price will be at a markup from cost. Whatever parts are (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) I just want to straighten some things out in my mind. Are you planning on ordering a bunch of these pieces and then selling them, or are you going to take prepaid orders? If you aren't going to take prepaid orders, can we send a pledge of, (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Remote switching points
 
It really is a shame that Lego no longer makes all the nifty automated light, switch and crossing components. I first saw these in the 1980 European catalog ((URL) , which I still have :). My mom brought it over from a trip to Germany. I was stunned (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Remote switching points
 
(...) *snip* Christian - You're on the right track (pun) here...my best results for a remotely automated point were to implement a system similar to what you described. I used a 1x6? black technic linking plate to do this - that's the kind with (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)


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