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Re: And a new hopper car
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:09:25 GMT
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lpieniazek@*ihatespam*novera.com
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Steven Barile wrote:

Larry shield: Is this a gondola not a hopper???
SteveB

It's probably a gon. I think the defining characteristic of a hopper is
that it has bottom doors. However there is some muddyness... In
particular, you often will hear unit train cars called hoppers, but they
have no bottom doors/chutes, they instead have "bathtub" (rounded)
bottoms. The cars are emptied by turning them upside down (really!!! A
giant machine with track mounted inside of it can turn 3-4 gondolas
upside down at one time WITHOUT uncoupling them, which removes the coal.

as to where you may have seen the technique of thinwalls for ribbed,
see...

http://my.voyager.net/lar/train_freight.html

in particular this pic:

http://my.voyager.net/lar/bl_gon2_side.jpg

and

http://my.voyager.net/lar/slush_list5.html

in particular this pic:

http://my.voyager.net/lar/coil_side.jpg

However, those are using the smaller thinwalls rather than the 2 high
ones. I have a car with 2 highs but never took a picture. Not claiming
to be first to do it. :-) Merely that I did it before you, dunno where I
got the idea myself. Don't think I thought of it myself.

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  Re: And a new hopper car
 
(...) The most definitive thing I see as characterizing a gondola v.s. a hopper is that hoppers are tall and gondolas are short. Gondolas with bottom doors/chutes are usually refered to as drop bottom gondolas. (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)

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  Re: And a new hopper car
 
Larry shield: Is this a gondola not a hopper??? SteveB Steven Barile wrote in message ... (...) fact (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.trains)

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