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Re: Reagan... not exactly libertarian, but close
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Mon, 3 Apr 2000 03:01:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Edward Sanburn writes:
> Chris,
>
> > And another thing (while I'm ranting) why do 'normal' folks see it as so
> > horrible or unthinkable that pro-life zealots murder abortion service
> > providers?
> > If you believed that abortion was the same thing as murdering fully
> > developed people, wouldn't you be willing to put an abortion doctor's life • on
> > the scale with their multiple victims and come to the same conclusion? It • just
> > doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me.
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> I wonder what you are truly saying here, Chris. Zealots are on both sides of
> the abortion issue, both for and against.
Scott, in the past, you have taken offense at my writing and it sounds as if
you may be here. If I'm wrong, discount this paragraph, but... I didn't say
that zealots only occupied one side of the issue. All issues have zealots on
both sides. What I said is that doctor-assasins are pro-life zealots. I think
that most of us can agree on that. It sounds below like you agree.
> I don't think murdering people for
> most reasons is acceptable (outside of capitol punishment or war, but that's
> another debate).
No, that's this debate :-) Why is killing people in war OK? What about
capital punishment? In fact, support of capital punishment is a perfect
example for that other note to demonstrate how the right wants to impinge on
freedom. Surely killing people counts.
If killing people in, say, the conflict in Vietanm, was OK because the gubmint
told people to, then surely killing someone to save thousands of lives is
OK...right? What did those North Vietnamese ever do to us?
> I think killing people, or abortion doctors, or blowing up
> abortion clinics is wrong.
Well, good. But why? Why is it wrong? Isn't saving lots of life at the
expense of one or a few (especially when they're the murderers who would end
those lots of lives) worth it? I know that if I were in the position of having
to kill someone to stop just a single rape, I would do it. (This is one of
those hypotheticals where you don't get other options like you might have in
the real world.) Wouldn't you? If so, then how can something as little as a
single rape be worth a murder, but the salvation of thousands of lives not be?
> Nobody in the churches I have attended favor it,
> or want to do that.
Me neither, I'm just playing with the logic.
> This might be another case of the Christian-right-phobia.
In who? Me? I don't get how you could think that. I'm basically saying that
I empathize with the pro-life zealots (who are likely to be Christian). I'm
obviously not against them. In what way am I demonstrating any stance at all
toward Christian conservatives?
Chris
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| Chris, (...) on (...) just (...) I wonder what you are truly saying here, Chris. Zealots are on both sides of the abortion issue, both for and against. I don't think murdering people for most reasons is acceptable (outside of capitol punishment or (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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