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Re: Reagan... not exactly libertarian, but close
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Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:06:23 GMT
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Lindsay,
> > True in facts, but facts rarely enter in political debates most of the • time.
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> Everyone has different reasons for embracing a given philosophy--a fellow • I went
> to college with (actually, he was a Lib candidate for Ypsilanti city • council in
> the early 1990s) apparently switched from Dem to Lib to Rep (after being • shot by
> a robber, eek) with no major changes in his personal philosophy. I'd bet • that
> most people follow their own trajectories in politics that have more to do • with
> who they are than who their party is--as logic would predict. (Logic, • like
> fact, rarely comes into play in politics. ;) )
Hmm... well, I guess my political philosophy is definately right /
conservative (Which, in actuality, classic liberal) / Budding Libertarian.
My religious beliefs also play a part in what I feel personal
responsibility, but I don't want government to enforce them, I want
government to do what was intended to do.
> > > Not at the end, of course: there is no end. The 'political spectrum' • is
> > > not a line, but a circle, with the far left colliding with the far
> > > right.
> >
> > Wow, this is the first time I heard someone mention this, I always • thought
> > the same. Fascism / Marxism / Communism is not too fr off in my book. I
> > think most people on the left side of the aisle think of it as a • straight
> > line.
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> The first time? It's a fairly well-known principle in poli sci (and in • history
> by association) that it's a circular continuum.
Hmm.... I was taught in some classes (American Government, by a radical
communist, IMHO) it was a straight line. Race and Ethnic Relations class was
a line as well (There were several lines, too numerous to mention!)
> Regarding the position of
> Fascism and Nazism on the right and Stalinism on the left, people are • still
> debating whether radical nationalism, and subsequently fascism, truly • arose from
> the political right or from the political left before WWI; there's strong
> evidence for both, and major early figures come from both sides--usually • over
> one key issue (to tie this into the first-paragraph comment above). Some • make
> the claim that Nazism isn't Fascism, because the basis of National • Socialism was
> "anti-" meaning that its ideology was based on being against things, while
> Fascism at least tried to have a positive ideology of some kind.
Hmm... I don't know too much on the historical things like this. I wis I
could have taken some real history, not forced into politically correct
classes. Maybe one day.
> Ack. This is what happens when one studies for one's major field exam too • late
> on a Thursday night.
> In an unrelated question, how does everyone outside New Jersey view • Christie
> Todd Withman's chances of being nominated VP by the Republican Party? • We're
> obviously biased because she's our governor.
Well, I don't know. Her record is so / so, from what I have read. Not a real
good choice. I have heard Mccain, Robert Bennett, Alan Keyes, and Elizabeth
Dole. There are numerous others. I do know that Engler won't be. His wife
does not want to leave Michigan. Here is a funny cartoon about Gore and Bill
, BTW:
http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/Nowakarchive/cart20000317.asp
Off to push carts at Meijer! : (
Scott S.
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> best
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> Lindsay
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> PS: If there's a .debate in here somewhere, I realise that I have now • lost it
> by saying "Nazism." ;)
No, the debate will come later, this was a "discussion". There's Scott,
blundering off again.
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