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Re: Reagan... not exactly libertarian, but close
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Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:46:44 GMT
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"Scott E. Sanburn" wrote:
> Steve,
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> > Libertarianism is generally considered to be strongly toward the right
> > of the political spectrum.
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> True in facts, but facts rarely enter in political debates most of the time.
Everyone has different reasons for embracing a given philosophy--a fellow I went
to college with (actually, he was a Lib candidate for Ypsilanti city council in
the early 1990s) apparently switched from Dem to Lib to Rep (after being shot by
a robber, eek) with no major changes in his personal philosophy. I'd bet that
most people follow their own trajectories in politics that have more to do with
who they are than who their party is--as logic would predict. (Logic, like
fact, rarely comes into play in politics. ;) )
> > Not at the end, of course: there is no end. The 'political spectrum' is
> > not a line, but a circle, with the far left colliding with the far
> > right.
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> Wow, this is the first time I heard someone mention this, I always thought
> the same. Fascism / Marxism / Communism is not too fr off in my book. I
> think most people on the left side of the aisle think of it as a straight
> line.
The first time? It's a fairly well-known principle in poli sci (and in history
by association) that it's a circular continuum. Regarding the position of
Fascism and Nazism on the right and Stalinism on the left, people are still
debating whether radical nationalism, and subsequently fascism, truly arose from
the political right or from the political left before WWI; there's strong
evidence for both, and major early figures come from both sides--usually over
one key issue (to tie this into the first-paragraph comment above). Some make
the claim that Nazism isn't Fascism, because the basis of National Socialism was
"anti-" meaning that its ideology was based on being against things, while
Fascism at least tried to have a positive ideology of some kind.
Ack. This is what happens when one studies for one's major field exam too late
on a Thursday night.
In an unrelated question, how does everyone outside New Jersey view Christie
Todd Withman's chances of being nominated VP by the Republican Party? We're
obviously biased because she's our governor.
best
Lindsay
PS: If there's a .debate in here somewhere, I realise that I have now lost it
by saying "Nazism." ;)
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| Lindsay, (...) time. (...) I went (...) council in (...) shot by (...) that (...) with (...) like (...) Hmm... well, I guess my political philosophy is definately right / conservative (Which, in actuality, classic liberal) / Budding Libertarian. My (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) history (...) Both the far right and left merge under totalitarianism. I came to this conclusion independently many years ago, so it seems to be fairly self-evident once you get into it. My experience is that conservatives are the ones who see (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Steve, (...) True in facts, but facts rarely enter in political debates most of the time. (...) Wow, this is the first time I heard someone mention this, I always thought the same. Fascism / Marxism / Communism is not too fr off in my book. I think (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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