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Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
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Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:36:05 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:

Perhaps most of you think I would be over-reacting but frankly my life and
the lives of my loved ones comes first inside my own home.

  I think the real difference lies in what you and I identify to constitute an
immediate threat to oneself and one's family.  It seems that you equate the act
of breaking-in with the intent to inflict bodily harm, whereas I distinguish
between the break-in and the intention of injury.  Granted, some cases of home
invasion appear to be motivated primarily by the desire to inflict harm, but
such invasions are a statistically smaller portion of break-ins overall.

  Another hypothetical example occurred to me over the weekend, evoking a
previous debate.  I'd be interested to hear your response:

  8.  The intruder is a woman who doesn't know that she's four weeks pregnant;
you shoot her in the gut to incapacitate her and thereby kill her embryo; are
you responsible for the death of her innocent child?

As the child is under her care and if through her ill-advised actions she gets
shot in self defence, I would say that the fault lies with her.

-Mike Petrucelli



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  Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
 
(...) Okay, but let's extend it a little further. Suppose we went with variation #3 from my previous post: 3. The "intruder" is your daughter who has sneaked down to the kitchen for a glass of water during the night If you killed your daughter in (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
 
(...) I think the real difference lies in what you and I identify to constitute an immediate threat to oneself and one's family. It seems that you equate the act of breaking-in with the intent to inflict bodily harm, whereas I distinguish between (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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