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Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 28 Jul 2003 03:04:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:
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This is more of the usual right-wing idiocy. Beat down the victims of
right-wing callousness. The problem is not incarcerating real criminals, the
problem is the creation of crime!
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Sure, crime isn’t the criminal’s fault, it’s society’s!
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We are trying to legislate morality by creating whole categories of crime
that then overwhelm our prisons. It is pretty much an undeniable fact
(plowed ground here in debate) that the U.S. is the most incarcerated nation
on earth. Land of the free? Not bloody likely...
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You know, I’ve been meaning to ask you about that. So what if we have the
hightest incarceration rate in the world. Should there be some magical limit?
We as a society have certain norms about expected behavior. You violate that
and you will be punished. Don’t like it? Move to where that kind of behavior
isn’t shunned. And I don’t mean that as a glib “love it or leave it” crack, but
to recognize that our society is different than others. We are more modest,
etc, blah, blah. Different isn’t bad, just different. So if we want to make
drug use illegal, so what?
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I don’t have a problem with humanely incarcerating thieves, rapists, and
murderers -- nor should you. These dangerous persons need to be contained and
the prejudicial manner in which capital punishment is actually carried out in
this country prevents a sane and fair person from being able to co-sign death
sentences. Humane containment is our only real option.
But incarcating hardcore capitalists like drug-dealers? C’mon, how does that
make sense? Legalize it, educated people in it’s possible pro and con
effects, lab produce it to control it’s quality to prevent OD, and tax it.
Viola! A whole new industry creating jobs and tax revenues instead of the
status quo prison-housed leeches.
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How simple and naive you are! It sounds really good on paper, but drugs,
gambling, etc, have a very real tendency to destroy lives. How about
raising healthy, well-adjusted citizens who have no need for such destructive
lifestyles?
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From another angle, it’s not the money -- it’s how you spend it! Someone said
$40K + per annum to house a criminal. How about just giving him a decent
education or apprenticeship in a useful trade in the first place?
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LOL Good one! Why do you think criminals steal in the first place? Because
they would rather risk an easy score than to actually work for a living! You
are naive!
JOHN
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