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Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:13:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Spencer Nowak wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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Life is choices, and learning from past mistakes, and hopefully, as I
probably don’t have to mention to you, redemption.
If yer dead, how can you work at that.
I’m not an opponent to the death penalty, I am an opponent to
‘vigilanty-ism’. As soon as we take the laws into our own hands, we become
the criminals. What’s the point of having a legal system if no one gets
there to use it? There can be no ‘civil’ society if we all take the law
into our own hands.
My friend was suitably ‘convinced’ that B&E was the wrong thing to do.
Either thru his brief court experience or the whumping he got from his dad
at home, he was suitably punished for his deed. And here’s a concept--the
punishment should suit the crime. Losing a life over a television set isn’t
it.
Yes sometimes the legal system sucks. But there are ways of fixing that
within the system. And if it takes a while, then that’s the inherent safety
net that y’all love to talk about where your Constitution is concerned.
So either believe in the system or don’t believe in the system. Just don’t
stand on your hypocritical soap box saying “Look at us with our awesome
setup we got going on here” and in the next breath, break your own rules
‘cause y’all don’t like ‘em due to their inconvenience. Shooting someone
who hasn’t specifically threatened you because he *may* threaten you is
breaking your own rules. Self defense doesn’t apply unless you are being
personally attacked. Someone pilfering off with your television is not an
attack on you.
Quoting someone else in a differnt NG, put up or shut up.
Dave K
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if someone is in MY house, taking MY stuff, i have to stand there and watch
quietly? I dont think so. There are consequences to every action. If
someone is too stupid to understand that this is my stuff and they should
keep their hands off it, we dont need them as part of this society. And
there is no chance they are innocent, because if they are INSIDE my house
taking MY stuff without my knowledge or permission, they are obviously
guilty.
Gun totin’ yahoos (With good reason)
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And again we go around with the punishment not suiting the crime.
If someone is stealing your stuff, what justice is served by killing him?
The punishment has to be proportional to the crime or, taking your idea of
justice, we have is the death penalty for jaywalking.
So again, someone is stealing stuff is bad. I never said otherwise. Does that
warrant death?
There’s your gun toting yahooness, Where there is no Just reason to shoot
someone, you get the ‘yahoo’.
For a supposed ‘civil’ society, you’re quick to pull out the anarchy card.
Dave K
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