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Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
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Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:04:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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My friend was quite young, like 12, when he was caught in a ‘B&E’. He’d be
dead if it was your house.
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Life. It’s about choices (1). Be a mountain climber? You might fall and
crack your skull open. Race cars? You might hit a stationary object at a
rapid rate and scramble your brains. Break into someone’s home? You might
find that that occupant has an adversion to having his stuff boosted. Maybe
that person has been robbed before and is sick and tired of it and decides
that the next person who attempts it will pay dearly (as was the case with
Tony Martin-- I read that these 2 had robbed him previously. BTW, the
surviving criminal had 30 prior CONVICTIONS!! WTH???).
Choices. Make the best of them because often times you don’t get a second
chance.
JOHN
(1) Unless we want to argue about free will, which is another topic
altogether.... unless we want to argue about free will, which is another
topic;-)
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Life is choices, and learning from past mistakes, and hopefully, as I probably
don’t have to mention to you, redemption.
If yer dead, how can you work at that.
I’m not an opponent to the death penalty, I am an opponent to ‘vigilanty-ism’.
As soon as we take the laws into our own hands, we become the criminals. What’s
the point of having a legal system if no one gets there to use it? There can be
no ‘civil’ society if we all take the law into our own hands.
My friend was suitably ‘convinced’ that B&E was the wrong thing to do. Either
thru his brief court experience or the whumping he got from his dad at home, he
was suitably punished for his deed. And here’s a concept--the punishment should
suit the crime. Losing a life over a television set isn’t it.
Yes sometimes the legal system sucks. But there are ways of fixing that within
the system. And if it takes a while, then that’s the inherent safety net that
y’all love to talk about where your Constitution is concerned.
So either believe in the system or don’t believe in the system. Just don’t
stand on your hypocritical soap box saying “Look at us with our awesome setup we
got going on here” and in the next breath, break your own rules ‘cause y’all
don’t like ‘em due to their inconvenience. Shooting someone who hasn’t
specifically threatened you because he *may* threaten you is breaking your own
rules. Self defense doesn’t apply unless you are being personally attacked.
Someone pilfering off with your television is not an attack on you.
Quoting someone else in a differnt NG, put up or shut up.
Dave K
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