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Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
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Tue, 1 Apr 2003 20:42:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> <big snip>...
> 
> > I'll stand by my assertion. The US is superior to the DPRK(2) by this
> > prosperity based metric. The DPRK system isn't working now and has no
> > prospects of working better in future. It's also superior to the DPRK by a
> > human rights metric. Therefore, to say that the US and the DPRK ought to be
> > equal (for example both having one vote on the UN HRC, or both having one
> > vote on how UN funds ought to be spent) strikes me as false. I found an op
> > ed yesterday (but can't find it now) arguing this very point...that based on
> > what is being decided, different countries ought to get different sized
> > votes... the one I like was a vote based on proportional contribution to the
> > UN budget.
> 
> Uh, Lar, that may not be such a good idea - the US has a long history
> of failing to pay US dues.  If the vote was based on current, true,
> paid-up dues, there would
> be many times when the US would have ZERO votes due to being in arrears.
> 
> The idea makes sense to me, but with our past history, it wouldn't
> bode well for the US.

That's part of the original argument. If we don't get a vote unless we're
paid up, we (and other nations as well) will be falling all over ourselves
to pay up. ESPECIALLY if we get a 25% or so vote because of it.

I think there are a lot of possible schemes that could be considered that
are superior to "one country, one vote"... this is one of them. There are
others.



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Is this 'payment' to a "revamped" UN dependant on number of citizens in the country? GNP? Or just a flat rate? What payment scale would you set up to a 'better' United Nations so that all countries would be represented fairly? (24 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) I think it more likely we would end up falling over ourselves to do back-door deals in order to avoid paying. ROSCO (24 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote: <big snip>... (...) Uh, Lar, that may not be such a good idea - the US has a long history of failing to pay US dues. If the vote was based on current, true, paid-up dues, there would be many times when the US would have ZERO (...) (24 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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