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Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
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Thu, 27 Mar 2003 00:32:13 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

Do you agree that the US is superior to DPRK? I'd like a simple yes or no to
that question, please.

Left in because I'm still hoping for a yes/no answer. Just a "yes" or "no"
without any qualification or equivocation.


And yet you deleted all the stuff where I disprove this question--it's one
of your very own straw men.  How can you ask, "Is this superior to that"
without qualifications?  Canada's geographically bigger than the USA
therefore we're superior.  Is Larry superior to Dave?  Well, probably not
with EQ characters.  Qualify in which way and I'll give you an answer.
Internationally, the two countries are, or should be, equal.

Again, I would say that a *country* is on an even playfield with any other
country where international relations is concerned.

Why? If we postulate a yes to the question above, then why should the DPRK
be on "on an even playfield with any other country where international
relations is concerned" with the US?


But I don't postulate a "yes" to the first question.  I postulate that,
internationally, all countries are on the same playing field, or at least
should be, for the second one country feels it's superior, it can enforce
its superiority on other countries.  Why do you feel the US is superior to N
Korea?  That your gov't doesn't opress its people or that you have the right
to vote?  Does that give you just cause to enforce that on others?  I'm sure
some North Koreans feel that their way is pretty good--otherwise the country
wouldn't run the way it does.

One country imposing
itself on another sovereign country because they feel they're 'better' is
unjust.

Agreed. But what if the other country exports trouble?

Like America is exporting trouble?  Is your country just trying to provoke N
Korea?  "War Games" that your country is playing with S Korea that N Korea
is interpreting as aggressive and is now withdrawing from the 'pact of 1954?
Are you guys just looking to start wars?

Dave K



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  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) You're dodging. You say you reject the notion of moral relativism, right? I'm not talking about EQ characters or size. I'm talking about the metrics we already discussed... morally: which one is on the side of right more often? In which (...) (21 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Now might be a good time for you to step back and see where your arguing is taking you, because you have wittingly or no become a useful idiot for some of the most violent and repressive dictators and their regimes the earth has known. JOHN (21 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Left in because I'm still hoping for a yes/no answer. Just a "yes" or "no" without any qualification or equivocation. (...) Why? If we postulate a yes to the question above, then why should the DPRK be on "on an even playfield with any other (...) (21 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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