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Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
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Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:21:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
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> > What? You think America the Great is the only country that 'produces
> > countless blessings upon the world'? You act as if America is the second
> > coming, John! We, all of us, are equal nations (or at least should be), and
> > the second you start thinking that you're better than the rest is the second
> > that there are second class citizens that are allowed to suffer so you can
> > live better.
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> Sorry, Dave. Some nations are better than others. That's no slur against
> those who happen to live in the nations that aren't up to snuff.
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> But when you say stuff like "We, all of us, are equal nations", you're being
> tiresome.
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> Note that I didn't say any nation is perfect, so put your straw man away.
Is not a straw man at all, Larry, and I'm sorry that you're tired. But when
you are wrong, you're wrong. You have no issues pointing out when I'm wrong
(or others), and I have no problems accepting such criticism.
But *a* country has the same rights and priviledges to the world as any
other country. How can you possibly dispute that? Does Austrailia, as a
country, have the same play field to do what it wants as the United States?
If not, who decides who has 'more rights'? Geographic size? Well Canada
*is* the second largest country in the world then, so I'm bigger than you.
Population? *cough* China *cough*.
So by what rationality would *you* use for saying that some countries are
superior to other countries?
What I find tiresome is "Straw Man" with *no* validity justifying same.
"You're dumb"
okay, why?
"No reason"
It's the 5 year old way of arguing.
And if you beleive that it's a straw man and it's so painfully obvious why
it's a straw man, then list the points--I obviously thought it wasn't a
straw man arguement or I wouldn't have posted it. I'm also known for being
swayed by a good arguement and rescinding my past-posted ideas and apologizing.
So as my Red Wings friend (me, I'm Leafs) would say, "Put up or shut up"
Dave K
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