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Subject:	Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:05:07 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: > But that's not how it works--everyone, no matter the background, has the > same voice--one person, one vote, or it doesn't work for *all*. OK... one person one vote... that was a proposed metric too. In that case, the US gets what, 10 times the votes that Canada does? And India gets 5 times again since it's 5 times bigger than the US (I didn't look the exact figures up, you get the idea here... quibble about whether it's 5 or 4 as you like). As far as funding based voting, what I referred to (as being proposed by someone else) was not total foreign aid but UN budget contribution. What you're proposing/defending is one nation, one vote. Libya gets an equal say about human rights as Canada does. Fiji gets an equal say about economic aid (to Fiji, in some cases) as Australia does. The UN is broke. Nations are not equal. The UN founders recognised that to be so in the Security Council, at least. Some nations have more of a voice than others do. But they didn't allow for changes in things, the wrong 5 have vetos now, by just about any metric you care to name. You continue to insist that all nations are equal or equivalent. Bunk. Canada SHOULD have more of a voice in things than the DPRK.

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
(...) I like hw you extoll the tenants of democracy except where you think it'll work against you. You have no faith in your fellow man--if there are all these counties, with equal voice, you think that if a vote came up--"Should Iraq disarm" that (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
(...) ...as a %age of GDP? (...) The UN is about bringing nations together; that cannot be achieved by excluding developing countries. (...) Sure, lets rank them by 1. "least countries bombed since 1945". 2. "least times the veto was used" 3. (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) But here's where you're missing the point, Larry--If we use your very own rationale, I'd say that Canada should have 5 votes to your 1, because we're so much better than you--we have (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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