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Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
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Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:59:39 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
>
> > > > It may sometimes result in obtuseness, but many times it produces countless
> > > > blessings upon the world.
> > >
> > >
> > > What? You think America the Great is the only country that 'produces
> > > countless blessings upon the world'?
> >
> > Did I say that? You are obfuscating and being argumentative.
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> Dave: for clarity's sake, let me point out that John is objecting (not
> incorrectly) to your charge that he is painting the US as the sole provider
> of blessings, when in fact he merely asserted that the US has produced
> countless blessings.
> For my part, I'd take issue with the word "blessings," and I'm not sure
> I'd call them countless, but I understand that he's not claiming sole
> proprietorship of goodness in the world.
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> Admittedly, his tone elsewhere has resonated with precisely that vibe,
> whether or not he intended it. But if you wish to take him to task for it,
> you should address it when it occurs; he didn't do it in the section you cite.
True, and I apologize. The America-centric vibe I get from John's posts
slanted my readings. I would have said something like, "There are many
countries that have contributed 'blessings' to the world, and America has
had it's fair share." But that's just me.
So Joh, I do apologize for that. I didn't wnat to be perceived as
argumentative, but now that the point is clarified, I retract the statement
"What? You think America the Great is the only country that 'produces
countless blessings upon the world'?"
Sorry 'bout that.
> > > You act as if America is the second coming, John!
> >
> > I don't even know what that is supposed to mean.
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> Perhaps Dave K. is referring to Dubya's identification of the US as some
> kind of instrument of holy vengeance against Iraq:
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> http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/26/sprj.irq.bush.war/index.html
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> Isaiah 2:12
> For the LORD of hosts will have a day of reckoning
> Against everyone who is proud and lofty
> And against everyone who is lifted up,
> That he may be abased.
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> I know that Theocrat Bush likes to pepper his speeches with divisive,
> inflammatory biblical language, but those of us who actually listen to his
> language, rather than simply basking in the self-perceived glow of his
> providence, get more than a little freaked out when we observe what he's saying.
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> Dave!
I was more inferring that spreading "The American Dream"--forcefully in this
particualr instance, as Dubya himself said ("We'll bring freedom and
democracy to the peoples of Iraq"), and as some others, including Dubya,
have alluded to, they hope that "Iraq's shining example spreads to the other
Arab nations".
Then we can be all one happy capitalistic family!
Dave K
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