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Re: Is this an overreaction and a violation of rights?
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Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:48:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
I'm not all that introverted--I like going to parties and such, but by the
end of an evening, I'm tired, and not pumped up on adrenaline like my
significant other.  She goes on talking all the drive home about who said
what, and who dressed in this, and "Oh weren't those two such a cute
couple!!  We should double with them sometime..." and all I wanna do is find
a nice, comfortable bed to crawl into and sleep until noon the next day.

But that's just me. :)

Ah, but then you've fallen into the trap already!  The whole point of
these Myers-Briggs (or Voigt-Kampf, if you prefer) tests is that they're
designed to yield apparently "correct" personality assessments, no matter
how the answers come out.  However, since the questions are subjective and
since you determine for yourself how "correct" the evaluation is, there's no
objective validity at all.  People tend to accept even very vague and
non-specific characterizations if they seem generally accurate, and people
also tend to ignore or disregard characterizations that are perceived as
less accurate.
The really scandalous thing is that this test is apparently administered
by a number of schools as a means of assessing a person's aptitude and
career outlook!  Those same schools would do just as well to employ a bunch
of palm-readers and entrail-diviners!
The only thing the test can really tell you is what you want to hear.
Well, it might also be a reminder to approach these pseudoscientific
evaluations with a healthy dose of skepticism and a grain of salt!

  Dave!

Done and done!

I remember a time in my youth when my mom was so into 'dream
interpretation'.  She and a few of her close friends would get together and
discuss their dreams, look up symbols in books about that stuff that were
available at the time, and just get 'right into it'.

From what I remember, it was more harm than good--making life decisions due
to some interpretation of a dream can be the beginnings of quite the train
wreck.

I loved working with 'puters since I first touched a PET in 1980.  This
'love' for the silicone chip has stayed the course and has been my
profession for, well, always.  When I took personality tests in high school,
I can't remember what the results were, but they certainly did not mention
the computer industy at all.  Again, in college, no correlation to what I am
doing today.

What I did notice, lately anyway, is what Frank mentioned in his post--that
in situations, I found myself getting tired, and wondered if something was
wrong with me.  Well, it turns out that, whereas I like parites and having a
good time, that it does not charge my batteries, unlike my significant other.

And it's just good to know that--there's nothing wrong with the way I am, as
there's nothing wrong with her.  Of course I didn't need a personality test
to tell me that, we always knew that, this just adds specific personality
information to the mix.

It's much like the Mars/Venus book that was all the rage a while back--I
don't know how much psychobabble is in that book, or if it's all legitimate.
What I do know is this:  WHen there was a problem b/w me and my SO, I tried
to fix said problem--if it's fixed, it isn't a problem.  However, she just
didn't want a fix, she wanted to know that her feelings were understood,
that there was legitimacy to what she felt.  We worked that out before we
read the book, but now that we read it, it reinforces the point--people are
different, they handle things differently--I like fixing things, for if it's
fixed--no problems,  she wanted emotional closure as to why she felt the way
she did, and the knowledge that I understood it, and that it was legitimate.

But anyway, matters of the heart and personality are as varied and complex
as the people who have them ;)

Dave K.



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  Re: Is this an overreaction and a violation of rights?
 
(...) Ah, but then you've fallen into the trap already! The whole point of these Myers-Briggs (or Voigt-Kampf, if you prefer) tests is that they're designed to yield apparently "correct" personality assessments, no matter how the answers come out. (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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