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Subject:	Re: Is this an overreaction and a violation of rights?
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:13:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes: > > > > What's an ENFP? > > > > http://www.recruit-china.com/Career/MBTI/ENFP > > > > You can find hundreds of descriptions on the web. This was the first > > which had an extensive description. > > Thank you for the link; I'd never even heard of "ENFP" before, so it was > all news to me. But at a quick run-through, the test seems problematic. > Consider these questions: Oops! Disregard most of that--I looked at the wrong test. The correct one on that site is apparently: http://www.recruit-china.com/Career/MBTI However, aside from the precise questions, the methodology seems equally suspect. The user is asked for a series of bafflingly simple personal summations, after which the test points the user to a more elaborate, seemingly holistic encapsulation of the user's persona. My concern remains: is this test actually used for anything? It seems fundamentally flawed except as a brief diversion, and certainly it should be used as any serious yardstick for plotting one's limitations and potentials. By its very nature the test is irretrievably subjective, and the "4 letter acronym" is a classic example of the aforementioned "subjective validation." > as described here: http://skepdic.com/forer.html Browsing the SkepDic site, I came upon the following likewise useful link: http://www.skepdic.com/myersb.html I absolutely support your right to assess your potential by whatever yardstick you choose, but I urge you very strongly not to embrace such pseudoscientific methods as this Myers-Briggs stuff. This is especially true if are undertaking a serious evalutation of your debating/interacting style! Dave!

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		Re: Is this an overreaction and a violation of rights?
(...) Thanks for the link! I skimmed thru it now, and I'll give it a more throrough read tonite after work. I concur you shouldn't make any life-changing decisions on the basis of these types of tests. I liked them because, well, I was Extrovert, (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Is this an overreaction and a violation of rights?
(...) Yup. I have taken the MBTI (as well as others) on multiple occasions, and I don't think I've ever gotten the same result twice. Extrovert vs Introvert is a particularly bad one for me - I exhibit characteristics of both, and different people (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is this an overreaction and a violation of rights?
(...) Thank you for the link; I'd never even heard of "ENFP" before, so it was all news to me. But at a quick run-through, the test seems problematic. Consider these questions: Q: You want a job or a career that offers you the chance to travel and (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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