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Re: red light cameras CAUSE accidents
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:55:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
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> > Now here's a situation in Ontario (and prob'ly elsewhere)--red light
> > cameras--the camera takes a pic of a car if it drives thru a red light. A
> > ticket then gets mailed to the owner of the car. The owner rants and raves
> > about his rights being violated, especially if he or she wasn't driving said
> > vehicle at the time. As well, people say that these cameras invade their
> > privacy.
> >
> > I like to think that these cameras would make driving safer--less folks
> > driving thru red lights can only be a good thing, but if it is an
> > infringement of privacy, then I don't know...
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> Don't get me started on these cameras... they're bad. It's not the rights
> violation claim (which is false, unless you report the car stolen because it
> actually was stolen, you're responsible for what people do with your
> property), it's the fact that these cameras actually seem to cause more
> accidents than they prevent. (remember, the idea was to cut down on
> intersection accidents by making sure people stopped rather than running red
> lights and getting tboned)
We have a similar issue with speed camera's in the UK:
"The effect of the camera on driver behaviour can create new problems such
as erratic braking and acceleration and distract drivers from the traffic flow."
See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2212479.stm
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> In some jurisdictions the yellow has been cut to 3 seconds!!! Think about that.
Which is just the stopping time for an HGV moving at 30 mph, or a car moving
at 40 mph (inc 0.7s reaction time)... which is a little tight. However, in
both cases (UK & USA) the problem is not the camera, but the way they are
used and the way we drive (IMHO). Perhaps, in the future our cars will fine
us automatically when we break the law...
Using the cameras alone is a waste of time; they have to be used as part of
a wider strategy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2010787.stm
Scott A
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