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Re: Help Please Links! -----> .Mecha
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Tue, 7 May 2002 17:41:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Eric Sophie writes:
Dude, I have my reasons, the beauty in life is the duality that exists in
all truths.

Please understand that I asked with a PLEASE.

If someone asks please, perhaps compassion could take it somewhere.

If you sat with me, you would know me for who I am. Big headed,
concided....I'm not like that.

There is nothing wrong with adding a post to 1970. It has speacial meaning
to me. I said it was just my bit of nostalgia.

+Lar, do you want my Phone #?

I really wish the links in .mecha were updated. I'm not Whinning, alot of
people have asked. I was just trying to be proactive. There are only a few
people in the .Mecha group. Plus work was slow last night, so I gave it a whril.

+Lar what do you want from me?

We go back and fourth all the time. Just becase we don' t see eye to eye do
we always have to argue?

Dang, my life hard is enough. I try like hell to do good. I'm tired all the
time. My bosses suck. My Car died. All I have is my Will, my Sweetheart, my
Family and my cat. I hardly see my friends- They all live far away. And I
have Lego. I build Lego because it does't talk back to me. I work at making
worth while creations to make my life all that much more happier.

I came to Lugnet looking for people who would understand me. All I do is
butt heads with you. And I still try to be civil and encourage understanding
between us.

There is so much death and suffering in the world today. I wish we could
just focus on the better things in life.

I happened to notice that there were no posts in that .year.1970 area. So I
said what the heck. I can look back and see it when I'm 75 years old.

I don't know what else to do, I always know there will be people who will
jump to their own conclusions. I know my motivations. Truth is if you knew
me, you would see I care a great deal for the world. I care for those who
don't evan care about me.

I give chance after chance. People deserve it. I don't always act the right way.

But then there was just something about your response that bothered me. Call
it the Classic +Lar syndrome. At the very start I knew you would jump into
the Links post.

I also knew after our exchange you would not like my post to .1970

What can I say?

I can tell you that in a way something you said in your post bothered me.
You said when people have asked to add their link to the resources list you
said you don't have time. Dude you post all over the place. You spend time
in off topic debate. Or in .mecha shooting my request down. Then people see
that you blew them off after they asked you to add their link and your
spending time posting all over.

Don't you think about how you look?

What about that.

And, you assume that no one will help the .Mecha community.
Your adding noise to my request, I did'nt address the question to you, it
was to the Admin staff. If they can't or won't at least I tried.

Can I do more? Am I willing to do more.

I just have so many thoughts in my head. My roof is leaking, my Dad lost his
Job, and other personnal headaches. I just wish the resource list was
updated. It's a small thing that would make me happy.

I'd send $100 to Lugnet if someone would just spend a little time helping us
out.

No biggie. Let the Admins answer me.

Ever think that your just raining on my parade. It would make me happy
right? So why add negativity.

+Lar, I grew up as a Buddist, I see things as I do. What do you hope to
accomplish by jumping into a .Mecha thread when your into Trains.

Leave it alone.

In the end I just want to be happy.

Eric

In the end, don't we all want to be happy?
Can I *please* stomp on someone else's foot?  That'll make me so happy!
No?
But I said please!

There are soooo many newsgroups.  If the admins were to take on the
responsibility for maintaining links for all the uncurated newsgroups, there
would have to be like a dozen full time employees, just doing updates.

Larry was very helpful with his suggestions.  If you had issues with
previous discussions with Larry that left a bad taste in your mouth, don't
take it out on his very appropriate post this time.

Read what was said--you asked for help.  You wanted the admins to help
specifically update your links.  Larry pointed out, rightly, that that is
not part of their job, and that groups that want these things need to
appoint a curator who will do it for them.

He also went on to give very helpful suggestions to facilitate this endeavour.

Proactive:  How do we go about getting our links updated?

Whining:  I don't want to do it--I pay money--Someone else should do it for me

I pay property tax--I want the gov't to cut my grass please.
No?
But I said please and I pay money for the property!

K, I'm throwing my hat in the ring--I'll volunteer to be the curator for .mecha.

I know nothing about said group, and I really don't plan on building *any*
mechs in the future, tho I love looking at the mechs that y'all
build--especially yours, Eric!  You do sweet work, and it looks as if you
enjoy working with this particular medium.

If you want a know-nothing-mecha curator, there you go.

I don't know anything about this web page building app. either, so that
might rule me out right there.

K, I won't be any good at it so forget that bit.

The admins have enuf on their plates without getting bogged down in what
should be an internal 'who wants to be .mecha curator' problem, which is
what Larry said.

Tackle the issue that way--who wants the job?

Reminds me of that children's story about the mice who came up with this
brilliant idea to tie a string with a bell on it around the neck of the cat
so they could hear the cat coming--after the idea and plan were formed, no
one volunteered to do the actual job, so the cat never got the bell around
its neck.

Bottom line, for me, is read what was said, and don't shoot the message
'cause you don't like the messenger.

Dave



Message has 3 Replies:
  How to get link pages made
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <a bunch of good stuff... thanks. Great analogy to property tax by the way!> I just want to comment on this bit: (...) David: FTX is not that hard to learn to do the basics. It's way way was easier (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.curators)
  Re: Help Please Links! -----> .Mecha
 
(...) Perhaps when Eric became a member up-to-date link pages were part of the "deal". Did the gov't cut your grass when you 1st bought your property/paid the tax? ;) Scott A (23 years ago, 8-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Help Please Links! -----> .Mecha
 
(...) Really? When did this process start? Suz appoints the curators last time I checked, not the groups themselves. I've had quite a few people ask when I am going to update .org.us.lugola. I have to point out that I'm not the curator. (...) Some (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Help Please Links! -----> .Mecha
 
Dude, I have my reasons, the beauty in life is the duality that exists in all truths. Please understand that I asked with a PLEASE. If someone asks please, perhaps compassion could take it somewhere. If you sat with me, you would know me for who I (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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