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Re: Jenin
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Date: 
Tue, 7 May 2002 17:30:23 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dan Boger writes:
If anyone is actually trying to understand what happend, as opposed to
some of the claims floating around, I found this article very
interesting:

http://www.time.com/time/2002/jenin/story.html


Did you see the "unscientific" poll on the same page:

"Do you believe Israel committed human rights violations against
Palestinians in Jenin?"

60% Yes
40% No

197531 Votes

Perhaps that view was informed by Sharon. One of his demands of the now
aborted UN fact-finding mission was that evidence collected could not be
used in any war crimes case…. I wonder why he’d want that? As we now know,
Israel refused to allow the UN in.... despite Sharon's claim that they have
"nothing to hide".... right!

Instead, Israel tries to control and intimidate the press to state its
version of the truth:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1966000/1966094.stm

Finally, I read these words just yesterday:

"The friction with the Palestinian population is caused by the need to
provide settlers with freedom of movement, not by the need to prevent
suicide bombers entering Israeli territory. As long as Israel continues to
hold the settlements, it will be forced to act immorally toward the
Palestinian population."

They were written by Captain Haim Weiss of the IDF. He is a reservist
refusing the call for duty. This is why:

"Israel has done more than grant citizens full rights to protest against
injustices. By including the concept of "a clearly illegal command" in the
code of military law, it has obliged its soldiers to refuse to carry out
orders that are immoral or opposed to the values on which a democracy is
based.... Military law does not define what a clearly illegal order is, but
leaves it to the soldier. My interpretation of the law does not limit it to
orders involving attacking, killing or injuring people. Rather, it includes
any command that, when obeyed, leads to humiliating human beings, robbing
them of self-respect, and depriving them of the basic human rights protected
under the UN declaration of human rights, a document signed by Israel."


Scott A

Dan: Does the IDF site report the gunning down of a Palestinian woman and
her children (aged 3 & 4) by the IDF over the weekend?



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If anyone is actually trying to understand what happend, as opposed to some of the claims floating around, I found this article very interesting: (URL) Dan Boger dan@peeron.com (23 years ago, 7-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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