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Re: How to get link pages made
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 9 May 2002 03:03:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl writes:


Eric Sophie wrote:

I don't expect Admin to do the work for us.

Yet you did.  You made a scene until Suz finally spent some time (on something
she had NO expectations to do so by anyone, it seems, except you) to update
your
links.

No, Eric expected the curator of .build.mecha to update the links. That's a
tough thing to request when no curator has been named. If the curator doesn't do
the job then go to the next higher source. Locical? yep.

Yet again I state - you could have learned FTX by now and updated the links.

and again I point out that the links can't be changed without curator status in
place. Anything less is a link off my own FTX pages and that just isn't what's
needed.

The next time they are out of date, what are you going to do if you still
haven't
found a curator yet?
That wasn't the problem to begin with, but continue your rant please.

Cry out for help again, rather than DOING?

Okay, let me try this again...I'll type in .build.mecha, attempt to alter the
links and fail miserably as has happened for the past nine months. Altering
links on my page is simple. Altering links on other pages is not.

You still haven't gotten my point, have you?

Of course he did. You only need to use the ice pick once to get his attention.



The curatorship came about as a way to help ourselves.
True

There is way to much work to expect it to be done for us.

True

Yet you made a fuss until it was done for you.

False. He asked for something to be done about it rather than wait another nine
months for a possible resolution. Had the curatorships been in place, Eric's
post would never have occurred and he would never have been flamed for it.

I see your post as just adding negativity and your way of saying that this
is all a big mess and annoying at that.

Feel free to only see the negative - if you're that way in real life, you're
going to be pretty bitter after a while.

Very true, but when negativity is all that is thrown your way....

You obviously missed the simple point I had, even when I was being blunt to get
it across (there's a reason for the bluntness - reading the other posts, it
seems
nothing but bluntness was working with you, and evidently even that doesn't
work).

That was just plain rude and uncalled for. Eric wanted a resolution from either
Suz or the mecha community. When the usual castle/pirate/train/town people
decided to make it their business, he got upset (rightfully so).

I feel that way, and frankly if you
look past the hassle and everyone slamming me, you would see that I just
asked for help, I said please and I directed the issue to Lugnet Leadership.
Get involved if you wish.

Um, my point (since you still haven't gotten it) - YOU get involved.  DO.  If
you
want it done, DO.

My point-He did. He got the ball rolling that may FINALLY get .build.mecha a
curator who wants to update the links and care for .build.mecha the way we all
care for LUGNET.

Don't ask "outsiders" for help, especially for something as
simple as updating some links.

Fair enough, Tom. I challenge you to update the sidebar links of .off-
topic.clone-brands. Don't tell me you can't do it because you obviously can do
it without being the curator. IF Eric had the power to update the links, don't
you think he'd do it? I know he would.

BTW, have you considered having multiple curators, since you're all obviously
the
busiest people in the world?

sarcastic comments can be left at the door. They don't add anything to the topic
at hand.



Your not helping.

Only because you're not listening.

Why listen to those that don't know what they are talking about?

Where's the support, where is
the kindness? Do you goto church? I love my Cat.

Your out of touch.

You are definitely out of touch.  Or maybe you ARE in touch with GenX and
expect
everyone else to do everything for you.

That's GenY. GenX made our millions (and lost them) with the cyberboom a couple
of years ago. Eric's no slacker, that's for certain. If he were, you'd see a
much less prolific builder/poster.



What else?

The point is moot anyhow, Suz hooked us up and I was very happy. I know that
from here on the .mecha group will just have to take on the responsibility.
I'm cool with that, do you see all the hassle I went thru just to get to
that point. Do you think I want to cause probelms or annoy "everyone" No. I
just want something done about our links. Break my Back for not becomming
the curator of .mecha. I see now it would have been smart for me to do it
and on the other hand I would have just pee'd people off by not being able
to keep the list up to date. I just couldn't commit to it. What's wrong with
that. So I should suffer instead? Our links should just suffer as well.

Do you really think keeping one simple page up to date is going to monopolize
all
your time?  Get real.

You still don't get the point. Time was never the issue. Having someone to talk
to about updating .build.mecha was.



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Tom Stangl
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  Re: How to get link pages made
 
Dave, I got the point from Eric's posts in .debate. I can't help the fact that he NEVER mentioned that you (and others) were actively attempting to become curators. He simply stated noone would step up to a curator position. That's quite different (...) (22 years ago, 9-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: How to get link pages made
 
(...) Yet you did. You made a scene until Suz finally spent some time (on something she had NO expectations to do so by anyone, it seems, except you) to update your links. Yet again I state - you could have learned FTX by now and updated the links. (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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