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  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) I'll hold off here-- is that what you meant to say about a scientific theory being proven? IE that no contradictions "prove" it (and accepting that it is a falsifiable theory) (...) See, there's the bit that I was getting at: "reasonable (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Terri Schiavo
 
(...) Don't forget that this apostle of the Culture of Life, during his tenure as governor of the great State of Texas, signed the bill that allowed hospitals to terminate life support against a family's wishes if such support was deemed too costly (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Terri Schiavo
 
I'm amazed that the man who took the world on an illegal war which cost the lives of tens-of-thousands, disrespects human rights and executed dozens of juvenile offenders did not have the power to "save" (URL) Terri Schiavo>. I'm even more amazed (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) But let's be clear--that so-called elitist minority is arguing in favor of that which can be confirmed by independent observation and experiment, whereas Mummert et al are arguing that we should teach creationism because the bible says it's (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Really? I figured you'd be more the type for big books... Steve (Thompson Chain with the big red letters!) (NIV with the ribbon bookmark!) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Good builder? Really good at microscale? Worked on the LEGO Factory project? I think you're thinking of ROSS! (I've alleged before that Ross does all the good building in that family, J2 just takes the credit...) Seriously, ya, he's not bad. (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Well, technically he did with the Factory Team last year?! Perhaps he still does? - with NDAs we're not really in a position to know one way or the other! Seriously though, John's one of my favorite builders. His work is always top notch. (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) He has a LEGO career? I did not know that! (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) :) lol... that's pretty good, but don't leave your Lego career for the music biz just yet! :) Spencer (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) No, only that He hides it well. God: "Does my mass look big in this universe?" I like big orbs and I cannot lie....:-) JOHN (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) In lugnet.off-topic.debate, J. Spencer Rezkalla wrote: (...) C'mon, you two, stop. There is really no need, is there? You can be funny enough without the bowdlerizations, right? A guy would think you guys are trying to make me grumpy. Leave (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) So what exactly are you implying here - that God's got a huge mASS? Spencer (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Oh, I got that simpler part too - but I felt like examining the contents within the article to see if they supported it. Definitely a foot-in-mouth award is due here. :) Spencer (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Well, OK. But the reason I found it funny is much more simple... the speaker is basically saying *he's* not intelligent or not educated, or perhaps, neither. (and you know what, I tend to think he's right... he isn't!) Didn't mean to spark a (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Well, I totally agree, but that's really just saying that the two are unrelated. Which is fine. Wisdom =/= Intelligence. But I just kinda find it sad that the connatation forming on the Right is that "Intelligence = Bad/Unwise/Evil". (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton wrote: <snip> (...) Merely because a person knows a lot about quantum mechanics or is an expert on pottery from the Ming Dynasty doesn't make them any wiser than an old hayseed from Tennessee. I mean, wasn't (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Or, framed another way, an overwhelming minority who wish to impose their elitist, secular beliefs on the unwashed masses. (...) See, here is the crux of the issue for me: science has the temerity to assume that it will ever come close to (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) **snip of example** I figured that you and I had been through all this already before. Proof in scientific terms is most certainly not in the eye of the beholder, but "proof" in that context doesn't mean the same thing as "proof" in a (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: These are the Daves I know Was some other debate
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Rob Doucette wrote: Hey! What's a "Rob" doing in this thread? (...) ---...--- Too Many Daves ---...--- Did I ever tell you that Mrs McCave had twenty-three sons and named them all Dave? Well, she did. And that wasn't a (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: These are the Daves I know Was some other debate
 
(...) It's better with music: (URL) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  These are the Daves I know Was some other debate
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton wrote: <snip> . Arguing is so much more fun :) (...) Do all Daves consider arguing fun? Or is that just the Daves around here? Dave K (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Well, my initial response was something a bit more argumentative. But when I started thinking about it, I realized there were some interpretations of the statement that I found I agreed with. So I erased my 2 paragraphs and wound up with a (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) I'm gonna skip down to here, because here's the meat of the argument, I think. Proof is in the eye of the beholder. *DISPROOF* is far more objective. I'm thinking of a number sequence. The first number is 1. A creationist (I'm gonna go back to (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) To be fair, you did say "I guess that's right," without disclaiming a whole lot of wiggle room. I can accept your more elaborate articuation below, but I hope you can see that my response wasn't inappropriate given your initially apparent (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) That's true, which is why I didn't say "that's exactly correct!". But in thinking about human evolution, a very early step (and not necessarily the first, depending on what you call steps versus qualifications, or transition states or (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Well, that's a big difference! I have no more fear of the Lord of the Bible than I have of the (URL) of the Dance> (and maybe less). I similarly don't fear Bigfoot, the Easter Bunny, or Paul Bunyan. Rather than equivocating on some overlap (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) You're attempting to repaint the issue along purely semantic rather than functional or philosophical lines, and thereby you're casting your vote in favor of creationism. An actual scientist is someone who practices actual science, as opposed (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Not at all! The first human reaction to that which is out of our control is to control or predict it. Understand it. Particularly if it's important to us. Understanding why the grass is green, for instance, is of far less importance to (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Eh, I think the counterargument goes that 1) what *you* call an "actual" scientist doesn't necessarily match what others might call an "actual" scientist 2) why should this be classified as "science"? Calling it "history" might be what (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) I would tend agree that is the context of the quote - fortunately, Mr. Mummert demonstrates in the article why he is not a member of this "intelligent, educated segment of the culture" by foolishly combining evolutionary theory and (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Are you kidding? Dave! (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) I likewise suspect that Mummert was making an attempt at irony, and the fact that he also happened to frame the issue correctly is more ironic still. The culture war, in this context, is a tiny and radical fringe that wishes to impose a (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) I have to admit I'm kind of suprised at the terminology. I've heard that same sort of reference quite a bit (calling liberals/left-wingers/etc "intellectual" or "educated"), and I always expect some other sort of more derrogatory phrase to (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) This attitude is, unfortunately, exactly at the heart of the problem. It is abhorrent that anyone suggests that the mythology of Creationism (under whatever label) should be taught alongside a scientific theory so thoroughly confirmed that no (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Ha! Reminds me of the poll I heard wherein some majority of people found Kerry to be more intelligent, but W to be more trustworthy. In effect, it showed that there were lots of people out there who preferred someone who was trustworthy to (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) I think what the person meant was that we are being attacked by the intelligensia, the secular "educated" elite, and I think he is right on. There is a culture war going on in our country. Heh, what I find hysterical is the thought of (...) (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
(...) Props to Mummert for correctly identifying his enemy. Give those smart people an inch, and they'll take ~2.54 centimeters. Dave! (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  We're being attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of culture!
 
I found the subject quote hysterically funny. YMMV... (URL) toward the bottom of that story. (20 years ago, 30-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Patient readers may recall the extended exchange that DaveE and I had back in November or so regarding the Myers-Briggs Testing Instrument. Suffice it to say that we were, in the end, of surprisingly like mind; I objected to the test's use in (...) (20 years ago, 28-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Spotted! Liberals on my layout!
 
(...) WRT the clone-- I don't even know what brand it actually is. It was a part of a JAL promo set that was given to me by a family member who worked for NW airlines. You wouldn't suppose that I'd actually pay for a clone, would you? :-) Although I (...) (20 years ago, 28-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Spotted! Liberals on my layout!
 
(...) Hmm... Left to right? That makes you more Left than me?! Well, I guess that explains the lobotomy hole atop my head. I'm offended not by the joke but by the fact that a Tandem(?) clone minifig was used to represent my esteemed countenance! Oh, (...) (20 years ago, 28-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Spotted! Liberals on my layout!
 
(...) Yup. I thought you were the pirate buff. The clone is Dave! (20 years ago, 28-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Spotted! Liberals on my layout!
 
(...) So....is that left to right? (20 years ago, 27-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Spotted! Liberals on my layout!
 
Check out this pose of -->Bruce<--, me, and Dave! (URL) Well, I thought that it was kinda funny... JOHN (20 years ago, 26-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) I believe the point of three consecutive life setences is so that if someone becomes eligible for parole, they would still have to serve the next consecutive sentence (used in states that do not have "Life without any possible parole" (...) (20 years ago, 8-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Because if a person is doing it for amusement, then chances are that it’s not absolutely wrong for that person. The most broadly inclusive conclusion I can draw is to say that the taking of life is generally considered to be objectionable to (...) (20 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Why would you be so reticent to conclude that the taking of an innocent human life for no reason or purpose, but for, say amusement, isn't absolutely wrong and evil for everyone, not just you yourself? (...) Yes, but according to you, nothing (...) (20 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Well, that's my point. These types of absurd sentences are given out anyway. (...) We do that anyway with our system that releases criminals on technicalities and those criminals go on to kill again. (...) I was trying to focus specifically on (...) (20 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Not sure where you are going with that since no one is going to live a couple of hundred years. (...) So we don't murder innocent people. (...) My point exactly. (...) How so? (...) No. There's lots of people who confess to crimes that they (...) (20 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
At this point I should restate my standard disclaimer that I see no reason to conclude that any moral absolutes can be known by humans with certainty. With this in mind, any seemingly absolute statements I make along the lines of “reality TV is (...) (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Yes. I was hoping to take one at a time. JOHN (...) (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Hey, that's an important distinction to make, and I don't think that I was making it in our part of the thread. But let's make sure we're clear-- You're debating about the morality of execution itself (presumably in cases in which guilt is (...) (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) That well may be, but my point was and is to try and address the moral issue of execution directly. Your post reminds me of that classic scene in "Mr. Mom" where Jack is using the "Rocky" analogy. "Which Rocky?" :-) JOHN (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Certainly not knowingly. Nothing in life is certain, death and taxes notwithstanding, so I fail to see why this issue should be held to an impossible standard. Yeah, it's irreversible, but work as hard as humanly possbile to make the system (...) (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Don't know how this'll be received
 
Considering that sometimes I've been 'pro Canada' in the past... but anyway-- (URL) which former Foreign Minister of Canada, Lloyd Axwothy, wrote an open letter to Condi-- " By LLOYD AXWORTHY Dear Condi, I'm glad you've decided to get over your fit (...) (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Bruce has already mentioned the problem of certainty, which is a pretty strong objection IMO. The current system has numerous examples of convicted people who didn’t commit the murders of which they’re accused, so we’re actually executing (or (...) (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) If you can prove that all confessions are 100% truthful. What if he's lying to protect his sister? Sure he probably deserves a penalty for lying about it, but the needle? ROSCO (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Thanks. Resume kicking position:-) (...) Well, humans only live so long. I see little difference in a sentence of 40 years and one of 3 consecutive life sentences. I love it when someone becomes eligible for parole after a couple of hundred (...) (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) Surely you'd agree that the victims differ from the two cases of loss of life-- one "victim" is a murderer, and the other is an innocent. Therein lies all the difference in my view. (...) (...) (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) First, a quote: "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore." -Dick Nixon (to the press, after losing the governor's race in California, who, sure enough, didn't have the wisdom to stick with his promise and got the ultimate kicking (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) That's an interesting argument. For me, the problem arises when we try to grant one person the authority to kill another. A state-sanctioned execution, once the prisoner has already been rendered harmless, seems to me no different morally from (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I love LUGNET
 
(...) I knew it was so obvious. As I said, I just couldn't resist. (...) Of course I'm referring to principles! I know that. Even if English is my second language, I know the difference between those 2 words. However, I was "paraphrasing" Jason with (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Who told you that!?? Was it one of my jerk employees?[1] (...) I agree with your assessments. I think that if certain individuals hadn't valued liberty more than life, our country wouldn't have been formed, and generally speaking, liberty for (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) I'm not sure what "death-without-freedom" means, or why it might be of any value to the soon-to-be-deceased. Or did you mean "inescapable death" versus "life without possibility of parole?" (...) If the option were put forth as life with (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) (that's not actually a fair example, because those prisoners are trying to get from death-without-freedom to life-without-freedom. It's not an exchange of life and freedom.) Obtaining life-without-freedom opens the possibility of it being (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Be careful--I hear that you can be a real tyrant, so you're in for quite a conflict with yourself. (...) Hmm. At the risk of over-lawyering, I guess I'd need to be sure of the parameters of the question. Which is more precious: one person's (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) We do work them. The vast majority of prisoners in the penal system participate in some sort of work program, be it washing dishes, road side trash detail, or whatnot. But, as with everything in prison, work is a priviledge and there is always (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) You have to consider the cost of judges wages, court time, time waiting for court cases (spent in jail-more than ten years on average if I remember). That could easily add to more than the cost of incarceration. Also, consider that your (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Either one, however, is obscenely expensive. And getting moreso. Meanwhile, the penal system gains more and more power in voting blocs, etc. And lawmakers make more things felonies that shouldn't be. You know, if a chunk of my taxes weren't (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I love LUGNET
 
(...) Oh, puhleez. It's a WORD, not a lifestyle/defining principle. And that's "uneducated". (...) ...and that's "site". Oh, the irony. (...) The irony is even thicker... -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I love LUGNET
 
(snip) (...) um...shouldn't that be "principles"? Terry, I challenge you to do a show, and tell every one of the children viewing your display "its f---ing cool!" That's using it in everyday language, right? I wonder how many parents will be leaving (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) (I'm breaking my own self-imposed rule about posting here, so I will deal with me later;-) I have a question I'd like to ask you that in my mind relates to this topic, Dave! Which is more precious: life or freedom? JOHN (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) No way, you've got to be kidding me. Now I know how we massage a budget here in our little sewer district to show numbers we want, so I can imagine a criminal institution can show how it costs $1/day to support a convict. Sorry, I don't buy (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I love LUGNET
 
(...) George Carlin - now there's a man that can swear. (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Hello Mark: Since your post hasn’t yet been answered, I’ll take a stab at it. You’ve already raised some good objections yourself, upon which I’ll elaborate. You ask what would constitute a satisfactory deterrent/punishment for the planned (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I love LUGNET
 
(...) (URL) I should caution that the place-of-birth listed in that second reference might strike some readers as borderline profanity...) Dave! (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: I love LUGNET
 
(...) Sorry, I just couldn't resist jumping in, being the nitpicker that I am, in the good spirits that I'm in right now. 1) That was not a pun, just a (IMO) joke so obvious that it was pretty pointless making it in the first place. 2) I think you (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Bye, bye Canada
 
(...) Do you speak French? If not, I guess you don't speak to the vast majority of people here that speak French as their natural language, that have no idea that there is a Canadian culture (most people here wouldn't know that Avril Lavigne, Bryan (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bye, bye LUGNET
 
(...) James, haven't you got the slightest idea of what you're talking about? I'm no more Canadian at heart that you are, I don't know, Martian. So even if all the official papers say that I'm whatever you want, I'm what I want, nothing more, (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I love LUGNET
 
(...) Meh. Comments like that come from an education man I guess???... I was implying "about Lar". Stop talking about that person, not at all. I'm surprised a superior being like you couldn't understand that. (...) Woh... So by saying the "F" word, (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bye, bye LUGNET
 
(...) Here's the thing for me-- iwork for a Canadian company that has locations throughout Canada (except the Territories--I'd love that, but not so much at this time with the trips to the Yukon...) Anyway, we have 6 or so locatoins in the province (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I love LUGNET
 
(...) I expect that you meant "an uneducated man," but it would be churlish of me to make an issue of a typo when I myself am endlessly guilty of same. However, it's a mistake to identify the dreaded "f" word as an indicator of a lack of education (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bye, bye LUGNET
 
(...) Lets see: Passport=Canadian Money=Canadian Last Referendum= Canadian Therefore, you are Canadian. You may be a Quebeccois, and I might be a Smurfing Squarehead (Insert apropriate swearword that started this whole thing instead of Smurfing if (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  I love LUGNET
 
(...) Then why didn't you? Would have been a good idea... (...) The "f" word is uncalled for, it is last resort of a man without ideas, foundations, positions, or principals. It is the tool of an uneducation man. I know Chris personally and he is a (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bye, bye LUGNET
 
(...) Now you're teasing me... You know pretty well that I'm no Canadian... I'm Québécois and not part of your country, which is a fine country i might add, at all. --'Put up or shut (...) I'm not even talking about his Admin job... I'm talking (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Excellent news!
 
(...) Query: What in your opinion (not necessarily Dave but YOU the reader) is a satisfactory deterent/punishment for the planned killing of another human? (I'm not talking about drunk drivers or rage induced killings. I mean the serial killer or (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Excellent news!
 
The Supreme Court (URL) has moved our nation> one step forward toward the abandonment of a barbaric practice! Way to go, Supremes! Not much to debate, I guess, except that the practice should be banned altogether. All in good time. Dave! (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Should Prince Charles abdicate?
 
(...) We can always use a good laugh. :-) (...) It's amusing that a religion founded on the principle that the King of England can divorce (or behead) his wife gets antsy about Prince Chucky's antics. (see "We can always use a good laugh" above) (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: At last, proof of the media's Liberal Bias
 
(...) <snip> (...) Especially since this issue may have hooks into the Novak/Valerie CIA agent outing issue a long time ago--outing a CIA spook is still treasonable, and, as yet, no resolution in sight. Yoe, if this happened under Bubba's tenure, (...) (20 years ago, 25-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  At last, proof of the media's Liberal Bias
 
//sarcasm on// Can someone point me to all of the articles on FOX, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC about the Jeff Gannon scandal? //sarcasm off// If a similar story had arisen during Clinton's administration, we'd have heard nothing else for the entire (...) (20 years ago, 25-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Should Prince Charles abdicate?
 
Snip (...) remarriage after divorce! Tim (20 years ago, 23-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Should Prince Charles abdicate?
 
(...) Indeed there is - (URL) Posh Spice> has just had a baby! Scott A (who hates the growing vacuous celebrity culture) (20 years ago, 23-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Should Prince Charles abdicate?
 
(...) Speak for yourself mate! ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 23-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Pics from ToyFair 2005
 
(...) cost? The ideals of the past gave relevance to the notions that Military (guns) and Mortality (graves) were not the ethics the company was founded upon… What compromise is this? ...unfortunately, it’s a realistic one! But the new gun-heavy (...) (20 years ago, 20-Feb-05, to lugnet.year.2005, lugnet.general, lugnet.castle, lugnet.pirates, lugnet.harrypotter, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.dear-lego)
 
  Interview and interrogation, and who cares anyway? (Australia)
 
Twelve months ago, our federal political leaders told us that no Australians were involved in the interrogation of Iraqi detainees. Now it turns out that Australians were involved in 'interviews', but not 'interrogations'. Interviews can be clearly (...) (20 years ago, 18-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Should Prince Charles abdicate?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Bellis wrote about prospective King Chuck. As one of the Queen's subjects, I probably ought to take this all more seriously but: (...) Yes people (and I) do care some. This is why there are currently record numbers (...) (20 years ago, 17-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Should Prince Charles abdicate?
 
In the UK, Prince Charles, the heir to the throne, has recently announced that he will marry Camilla Parker-Bowles. This follows his divorce from Princess Diana and hers from her husband. They were seeing each other before either of them got (...) (20 years ago, 17-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This Week's "Dumbest Thing I've Ever Heard"
 
(...) I find it amusing that every word of that post is still true nearly a year later. But I have to wonder: has any critical portion of the vaunted Missile Defense Shield ever not failed? I read (URL) this> article, and it sounds like more of the (...) (20 years ago, 15-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Activist Lawmaker Legislating From The Barber Shop (Thread Hijack))
 
(...) <snip> Depends on the level of 'dirtiness'--maybe I'll go check myself in at the nearest rehab centre... It's free, y'know--my socialist country pays for such things... (20 years ago, 11-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Another assault on the UN dashed on the beaches
 
I heard the R4 show Moniot refers to... it was quite scary: "The BBC's File On 4 programme has learnt that out of over $20bn raised in oil revenues during US-led rule, the use of $8.8bn is unaccounted for."...(URL) more>>>> Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 11-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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