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Re: Excellent news!
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Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:56:13 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Steve Bliss wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
Which is more precious: one persons life or that same persons freedom?
I guess thats up to the person, assuming that he or she is competent to
make that decision (which, I grant, is another debate in itself) However,
given the fact that so many prisoners continue to appeal their death
sentences in hope of commuting them to life-without-parole, Id have to
conclude that, for these people at least, life is more precious than
freedom.
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(thats not actually a fair example, because those prisoners are trying to
get from death-without-freedom to life-without-freedom. Its not an exchange
of life and freedom.)
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Im not sure what death-without-freedom means, or why it might be of any value
to the soon-to-be-deceased.
Or did you mean inescapable death versus life without possibility of parole?
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Obtaining life-without-freedom opens the possibility of it being changed
later to life-with-freedom. So even if one persons freedom is more
important than one persons life, that one person might still opt for
life-without-freedom over death (with or without freedom).
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If the option were put forth as life with absolutely no possibility of
parole, do you think that death-row convicts would still seek it in preference
to execution?
Dave!
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| (...) (that's not actually a fair example, because those prisoners are trying to get from death-without-freedom to life-without-freedom. It's not an exchange of life and freedom.) Obtaining life-without-freedom opens the possibility of it being (...) (19 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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55 Messages in This Thread: ![Excellent news! -Dave Schuler (1-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Excellent news! -Mark Neumann (1-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Excellent news! -Dave Schuler (2-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Excellent news! -Mark Neumann (3-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Excellent news! -Timothy Gould (3-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif)
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