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Re: Excellent news!
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Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:06:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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“You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore.”
-Dick Nixon (to the press, after losing the governor’s race in
California, who, sure enough, didn’t have the wisdom to stick with his
promise and got the ultimate kicking around)
So welcome back to debate! ;-)
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Thanks. Resume kicking position:-)
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Murder carries the stiffest penalties as it is without the death penalty, so
it seems that you are applying something of a either a false analogy or have
a separate complaint about sloppily and inconsistently applied penalties. I
will certainly agree that there are penalties that are inconsistent with the
crime, usually for political expediency, but that seems to me more an
argument for getting them under control rather than just upping the ante.
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Well, humans only live so long. I see little difference in a sentence of 40
years and one of 3 consecutive life sentences. I love it when someone becomes
eligible for parole after a couple of hundred years. Doesn’t anyone find that
the least bit absurd?
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Indeed, is it not even offensive that heinous murderers are allowed to
retain that which is most precious when they didn’t afford the same to
their victims? Keeping them alive doesn’t uphold the value of life; ending
theirs does-- the precious lives of their victims.
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Assure me that everyone ever executed was guilty and I’ll agree to the death
penalty.
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Why? How? Specious besides. Let’s stick to an example of a serial killer who
confesses. Should we execute him?
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If not, then we have murdered the innocent in the name of justice.
And, of course, we have.
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In theory then, all those that support the death
penalty should be executed. :-O
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Good thing for us then that you don’t believe in the death penalty-- hoisted by
your own Picard;-)
(plowing through my ST:TNG collection; just finished season 1)
JOHN
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) If you can prove that all confessions are 100% truthful. What if he's lying to protect his sister? Sure he probably deserves a penalty for lying about it, but the needle? ROSCO (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Not sure where you are going with that since no one is going to live a couple of hundred years. (...) So we don't murder innocent people. (...) My point exactly. (...) How so? (...) No. There's lots of people who confess to crimes that they (...) (20 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) First, a quote: "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore." -Dick Nixon (to the press, after losing the governor's race in California, who, sure enough, didn't have the wisdom to stick with his promise and got the ultimate kicking (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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