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Re: Excellent news!
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:01:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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Of course not! The execution of a person who has been rendered harmless is
indistinguishable from coldblooded murder.
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I reject your equivocation. In one case, the victim is an innocent, and in the
other the “victim” is a coldblooded murderer. Being rendered “harmless” does in
no way make a person “blameless”.
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My point in linking to those
articles (one of which now appears unlinked, alas) is to show that the
execution of potentially innocent people is nothing like the “it never
happens” assertion put forth by advocates death penalty.
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No system is perfect. To criticize otherwise seems unreasonable.
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I should hope that everyone who is scheduled for execution actually
committed the crimes of which they’re convicted. That would seem the minimal
requirement for the death penalty. Do you think otherwise?
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Cleverly understated:-) But of course, Dave!
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And even if we eliminate the accidental(?) execution of innocent people, the
death penalty is still an ugly throwback to our not-so-distant barbaric past
and should be abolished as the savage, government-sanctioned murder that it
really is.
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Listen, as long as people barbarically take the life of innocents, there should
be an “old-school” punishment for their efforts. It is simply not “enlightened”
to keep murderers alive.
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What about the fate of a man who kills 5 women and children during a botched
bank robbery where he is captured at the scene. Presumably, then, you feel
comfortable enough to execute him?
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Of course not! If he’s rendered harmless (ie., he’s captured, then there
is no justification for murdering him. Well, other than raw vengeance, which
is no justification at all.
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Vengeance doesn’t enter in to it. It is about justice to the victims and
preserving the sanctity of life for society.
JOHN
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) I see that you are rebutting my "equivocation" with a straw man. Nowhere do I claim that the murderer is blameless, but I don't equate his "blamefulness" (sorry about that malapropism) with some "right" to execute him. And the person (or (...) (18 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Since I dragged Bruce back into this, I'll field the question for him (though he's welcome to refute or add to it, of course!) (...) Of course not! The execution of a person who has been rendered harmless is indistinguishable from coldblooded (...) (18 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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