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Re: Excellent news!
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Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:42:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
Which is more precious: one persons life or that same persons freedom?
I guess thats up to the person, assuming that he or she is competent to
make that decision (which, I grant, is another debate in itself) However,
given the fact that so many prisoners continue to appeal their death
sentences in hope of commuting them to life-without-parole, Id have to
conclude that, for these people at least, life is more precious than freedom.
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(thats not actually a fair example, because those prisoners are trying to get
from death-without-freedom to life-without-freedom. Its not an exchange of
life and freedom.)
Obtaining life-without-freedom opens the possibility of it being changed later
to life-with-freedom. So even if one persons freedom is more important than
one persons life, that one person might still opt for life-without-freedom over
death (with or without freedom).
Steve
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Message has 1 Reply: ![](/news/x.gif) | | Re: Excellent news!
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| (...) I'm not sure what "death-without-freedom" means, or why it might be of any value to the soon-to-be-deceased. Or did you mean "inescapable death" versus "life without possibility of parole?" (...) If the option were put forth as life with (...) (19 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Be careful--I hear that you can be a real tyrant, so you're in for quite a conflict with yourself. (...) Hmm. At the risk of over-lawyering, I guess I'd need to be sure of the parameters of the question. Which is more precious: one person's (...) (19 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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55 Messages in This Thread: ![Excellent news! -Dave Schuler (1-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Excellent news! -Mark Neumann (1-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Excellent news! -Dave Schuler (2-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Excellent news! -Mark Neumann (3-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Excellent news! -Timothy Gould (3-Mar-05 to lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif)
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