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Re: Excellent news!
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Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:36:18 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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If life is most precious, than can we conclude that the willful taking of an
innocent life is the most heinous crime one can commit, only exceeded by the
number of lives taken? If we truly value life (speaking as a society now)
as most precious, shouldn’t our intolerance of those who disregard life be
ultimate? If we do not say to willful murderers, “We regard life so
precious that the punishment for taking life is the ultimate one”, do we in
fact really uphold life as most precious?. Because if murder is only
punished by life imprisonment (loss of liberty), doesn’t that effectively
equate murder with other crimes such as rape, theft, drug usuage? The
penalty is the same, and in many cases, the same duration.
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First, a quote:
“You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore.”
-Dick Nixon (to the press, after losing the governor’s race in California,
who, sure enough, didn’t have the wisdom to stick with his promise and got the
ultimate kicking around)
So welcome back to debate! ;-)
Murder carries the stiffest penalties as it is without the death penalty, so it
seems that you are applying something of a either a false analogy or have a
separate complaint about sloppily and inconsistently applied penalties. I will
certainly agree that there are penalties that are inconsistent with the crime,
usually for political expediency, but that seems to me more an argument for
getting them under control rather than just upping the ante.
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Indeed, is it not even offensive that heinous murderers are allowed to
retain that which is most precious when they didn’t afford the same to
their victims? Keeping them alive doesn’t uphold the value of life; ending
theirs does-- the precious lives of their victims.
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Assure me that everyone ever executed was guilty and I’ll agree to the death
penalty. If not, then we have murdered the innocent in the name of justice.
And, of course, we have. In theory then, all those that support the death
penalty should be executed. :-O
-->Bruce<--
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| (...) Thanks. Resume kicking position:-) (...) Well, humans only live so long. I see little difference in a sentence of 40 years and one of 3 consecutive life sentences. I love it when someone becomes eligible for parole after a couple of hundred (...) (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Who told you that!?? Was it one of my jerk employees?[1] (...) I agree with your assessments. I think that if certain individuals hadn't valued liberty more than life, our country wouldn't have been formed, and generally speaking, liberty for (...) (20 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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