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Re: Excellent news!
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Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:07:35 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:

   Well, humans only live so long. I see little difference in a sentence of 40 years and one of 3 consecutive life sentences. I love it when someone becomes eligible for parole after a couple of hundred years. Doesn’t anyone find that the least bit absurd?

Not sure where you are going with that since no one is going to live a couple of hundred years.

Well, that’s my point. These types of absurd sentences are given out anyway.

  
  
   Assure me that everyone ever executed was guilty and I’ll agree to the death penalty.

Why?

So we don’t murder innocent people.

We do that anyway with our system that releases criminals on technicalities and those criminals go on to kill again.

  
  
   How?

My point exactly.

  
   Specious besides.

How so?

  
   Let’s stick to an example of a serial killer who confesses. Should we execute him?

No. There’s lots of people who confess to crimes that they haven’t committed.

But even if it is the most airtight case possible (apprehended on the spot with the murder weapon in hand with 20 witness with a clear view all looking in the direction at the time with video cameras, confesses AND the victim lives long enough to name his killer), making a rule based on that seems foolish to me since you don’t get cases only like that.

I was trying to focus specifically on the morality of executions themselves.
  
  
   If not, then we have murdered the innocent in the name of justice.

And, of course, we have.

   In theory then, all those that support the death penalty should be executed. :-O

Good thing for us then that you don’t believe in the death penalty-- hoisted by your own Picard;-)

But you believe, therefore you have to be executed by either yourself or another believer in the death penalty - I rather like the domino approach with a huge circle of death penalty supporters simultaneously slicing off the head of the person in front of them in perfect unison. Would you prefer Dubya in front of you and Jeb behind you, or the other way around? ;-)

I don’t enter into it at all (handing the petard with lit fuse - or Picard with shaved head - back to you).

Well, silly me, I didn’t know that petards even had fuses! (though I am well aware of hirsute-challenged starship commanders)
  
  
(plowing through my ST:TNG collection; just finished season 1)

Doesn’t Star Trek: Enterprise wrap up Real Soon Now? I want at least one more bare vulcan babe’s body part before the end....

So I’ve heard. It only lasted 4 seasons, which doesn’t sound like a long time until you learn that, incredibly, ST:TOS only lasted 3!

We watched ST:E religiously the first season, but busy life has prevented me from seeing any more episodes (any more TV, for that matter). Besides, that is why God created DVD box sets! :-d

JOHN



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(...) I believe the point of three consecutive life setences is so that if someone becomes eligible for parole, they would still have to serve the next consecutive sentence (used in states that do not have "Life without any possible parole" (...) (19 years ago, 8-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Not sure where you are going with that since no one is going to live a couple of hundred years. (...) So we don't murder innocent people. (...) My point exactly. (...) How so? (...) No. There's lots of people who confess to crimes that they (...) (19 years ago, 5-Mar-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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