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  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) This is only part of the picture, but you do have a point. You may find it interesting to search Google for “(URL) birth control>” The reality is that developed countries are substantially responsible for much of the problems in the developing (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Note the symbol is not % but its cousin, with two zeroes in the denominator. That indicates "76 of one thousand." If they'd meant 76/100, they would have used 0/0 and not 0/00. (...) We can play the Pirate Game, winner takes all... ;) all best (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
 
An Imperial Gallon is 4.55L. (URL) Christian probably should have converted to US gal in this particular case. (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
 
(...) As long as you're not to cordial about it--we've spent months cultivating this as an acrimonious forum. It just won't do to inject politeness at this late date. Dave! (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Boy oh boy. Don't ask me to compute a tip the next time I dine on a Friday afternoon. It'll be hard to see my monitor until after my head-ectomy. The 76% figure came from (URL), in section 4.3. Poor citation on my part. **snip of the rest that (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
 
(...) I haven't seen Private Ryan so I can't debate you on this one. Is it OK form in here to just say thanks for the interesting link? Don (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) !!! Divide it by ten, sir. Really, you're way off. Read your links again. The statistics give the number of deaths *per 1,000 live births* not the number per *100* live births. So that's 7.6%, not too far off in a very poor country. (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Hey, don't attribute to my duplicity what can be explained by my doofusness! (...) I figured I'd let you have one once in a while to keep you interested. 8^) Dave! (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Value systems die very hard. I was speaking primarily about the "third world" (or as we like to call it, the "two-thirds world"), but it's not hard to see that when people come here, the values system that promotes large families tends to have (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) [snippity snip] (...) What! You've been beating me all along with bogus facts and figures? I hate that! Liar, liar, pants on fire! I win. There, that feels better. :^) Don PS. :^) :) :^) Just in case you sensitive folks missed the other one. (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) There is a negative correlation between the average family size and the per capita GDP (or any of a number of other economic maturity indicators), in that as GDP goes up, people have less children. This is attributed to the shift away from (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Are you sure about that? Children have very little labor value in our society, and I still see the have-nots reproducing faster. You've hit ONE reason, but not nearly ALL reasons. (...) Hmm, is that wealth the cause, or the result? Or are they (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Well, all right--80% is a gross exaggeration. Still, infant death rates are sharply higher in third world nations than in the "developed" countries. Lemmee take another looksee... According to this site: (URL) 1999 more than 30 nations had (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Well, I was only responding to the question as it was raised in regard to third world "per capita" breeding rates. (...) I don't know that we need to play the "genes" card right off the bat; it sort of implies that "proles naturally breed like (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Hi. 80% mortality? Not likely. In fact, the opposite is true; that's what's helping the problem of overpopulation along. The real pushing force is the *labor value* of children; in agricultural societies--or, better put, societies that still (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) You don't actually have to look to the 3rd world to see the problem. It exists in your own backyard. The have-nots everywhere seem to reproduce faster. The imbalance will always exist, maybe it's programmed into our genes. You can bicker over (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
 
FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate "Christian Treczoks" <ct@braehler.com> wrote in message news:HyExHu.GGK@lugnet.com... (...) Actually there is a mistake. 1 gallon = 3.8 liters, not 4.55 liters. (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Remember This?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote: snip (...) That's good news! According to your link even the UN guy accepts the new PM. "A United Nations spokesman has said UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi - who is charged with choosing the interim (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Well, part of the reason that people in third-world nations have 10 kids is because 80% of those kids will likely die before puberty. Obviously that's not an inviolable statistic, and just as obviously it's not the only cause of skewed (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Bollocks. Most of the problems of the third world countries that are doing poorly are attributable to lack of the rule of law, and lack of enforceable property rights in those countries. Claiming it's the first world's fault is, frankly, a (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Remember This?
 
Remember (URL) this>?: "Critics of Bush Administration policy in Iraq have chastised the Pentagon for relying too heavily on questionable prewar intelligence from exile groups, particularly the Iraqi National Congress, about weapons of mass (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Hmmm, I thought it was a bit long winded and sort of lost track at the per capita part. In my politically incorrect world it seems a large part of the problem is those darned capitas. The third world produces so many of them it messes up the (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote: <snip> (...) Now this is why I hang out here.. Very nicely stated, Richard. Dave K (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
 
(...) Entertaining, but I only got a little ways in when I hit this. A.C.: "One can assume the director of the Nigerian Department of Tourism isn't too pleased. Winning the pageant site had been an uphill battle from the beginning. Some of the more (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) I see in this post this suggestion advanced again. I think I have seen it before. It goes well with this one that John prepared earlier: (...) I mentioned that I saw a structure and underlying logic in some of Scott's posts, and felt bad for (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ominous Parallels - or - "losing" the debate with the very first post(1)
 
(...) Have you actually read the whole thing? (URL) freaking enormous! And it uses a lot of big words too. What I'm wondering is, assuming you haven't read the whole act, what makes you trust an interpretation that immediately invokes that meme you (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Wow, you folks are sensitive. I thought the typo and the bizare link from google were kinda funny. I even added a smiley to go with the winky, but lugnet squashed my attempt to set FUT to .fun. Gotta figure out how to do that. Anyhow, the only (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
 
(...) (URL) Here's> a fun little site (no longer current, but archived) that dissects Ms. Coulter's spew. Worth checking out for anyone mistakes Coulter for a legitimate journalist or worthwhile commentator. Dave! (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) C /be/have been/ (...) Too bad we've deviated so far from that in the 200+ years since then. c.f. the Patriot Act for instance. ++Lar (who just got a telemarketing call from the GOP with one of those quasi surveys... after answering a few (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  our local rhino
 
(...) Sadly, our local rhino died just a few days ago. We are RZSS members pretty much because of Kruger; so the zoo was rather empty without him last weekend ;-( His mate, Umfolozi (AKA (URL) "Floozy">), looked pretty sad. Scott A (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
Can anyone tell me exactly what this is achieving? Is there any sort of aim to these attacks on me? Is this “constructive” Don? Should I just ignore him? Is his behavior acceptable? Is he obsessed by me? Should I be flattered by the attention? (URL) (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Then we may be the same. Our FF were very wary of government and set up our Constitution to basically protect the people's freedom from the government they were establishing. Our heritage is colorful, but not for the same reasons as yours;-) (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Ha! No convicts in my line as far as I know (I'm sorry to say), but definitely some displaced Irish, downtrodden English, and the odd Scot. Mind you, that was all a long time ago, and its not like genealogy has been a big interest in my family (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Which reminds me of (URL) this> (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: **snip** (...) **snip** (URL) On a related note...> 8^) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) are you an assiduous and malintentioned nitpicker? If not, I wasn't talking to you Scott, apologies if you think I was, but therefore I wasn't insulting you. If you are, then, by your own admission, identifying you as such isn't an insult, (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) I use google, and you're right, I did need to look up the first biggie. Unfortunately the top link from google didn't help much: (URL) of assidious> Or maybe that was sneaky debator's trick for calling someone an insidious @$$ and passing it (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Not Saving Private Ryan.
 
The Guardian has today published a number a letters written on and around D-Day by those involved. They are mostly from the UK nationals, but also from some the USA, France & Germany This paragraph stood out as it sums up the popular perception of (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) You called me a liar. All I'm asking is that you either justify that or apologise. It is that simple; it is a matter of etiquette. This is the last time I intend to ask. (...) Have you read your posts over the last 48 hours? At one point 7 out (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) They love it; most of their grandparents were convicts. ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) See? I told you Australians hate freedom. Dave! (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote: (snip) I explained what happened, I admitted fault, and I apologised for it. If it doesn't fit the format of the apology you want, or doesn't fit the facts as you imagine them to be, tough. Take it or (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Is this really the best explanation you can come up with after 15 months? That is not how it (URL) looks>. It looks like you tried to pass someone else's words off as your own (plagiarism) and infringed their IP rights in the process. Read (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Its an interesting observation about the similarities between Scott and teenagers, and to my mind not nearly so negative as Larry might cheekily imply by ignoring them. Even more telling is the truly American approach of simply filtering out (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Appy polly logies (was Re: What about the first?
 
(...) I sent you 3 or 4 already, and that exhausted my stock. Sorry, I'm fresh out now. :-) XFUT .fun because I hope this was in fun... (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) I'm surprised, ->Bruce<-, that you'd even recognize humility in a leader, given whom you recently voted into office;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Hey! That's way better than the lame excuse for an apology I got when you accidentally censored me! I demand an apology! ;^) Don (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) It turns out that if you leave a few words out of the search (URL) get a lot of sites with cites, most of which say that Churchill was talking about Clement Atlee, not Chamberlain, and most of which have a different wording. My memory of the (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
 
(...) Yup, the UK's pretty bad too - VAT at 17.5% on most goods (included in the price though), the fuel tax is incredibly high (about 86%) plus you have to pay road tax just to have your vehicle on the road. Alcohol and Tobacco taxes are high as (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Ominous Parallels - or - "losing" the debate with the very first post(1)
 
I found this link on Little Gamers ((URL) and it bugs me a bit... because I think they're right. (URL) know I've ranted against the Patriot Act before. Nothing has changed my opinion. It's bad through and through. 1 - re the "losing" comment... read (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
 
(...) Builtin taxes: gasoline, other fuels, alcohol, cigarettes (at least). I think about 90% of gasoline price is various taxes. health security (in fact a tax) social security (in fact a tax) tax from immobilities (is it 'personal property tax'?) (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
 
(...) I'd encourage this subthread to migrate away from the current groups and into off-topic.debate if it goes too much further into comparative analysis of countries... I XFUT there already. (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  IT = Interrogation Technology??
 
"Army's use of IT contract to hire U.S. interrogators in Iraq questioned" (URL) ran across this on an EDI list I'm on, if you can believe it...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) I suggest you read (URL) this> and then apologise. Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Scott's been trotting that old canard out against me for years. I'm surprised and disappointed that he's trying to use it against you too now. My advice? Just ignore it, unless you want to make a complaint under announce/1629 yourself. I (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Shrek 2
 
(...) I'm more concerned about the indoctrination of the 4yo than I am about the 13yo being exposed to the reference he/she already understands. Kids today are being taught more and more about sexuality at a younger age -- the problem is they're (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Is that me? My vocab isn't what I wish it was, but I thought it was called something different when you substitute just a few of your own words. Kinda like Weird Al singing "Eat It", but not quite. Oh well, you're the PhD here, so you must be (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
This one's for Mike P! (...) I thought it was a Gone With The Wind/Star Wars reference: Rhett or Ric Olie. Dave! FUT OT.Deja-Vu (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: work-pages & bridge postcards
 
(...) Look again. (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Your posts yesterday suggest otherwise; 6 out of your last 7 have related to me. As an aside, there is something upsetting about having one's posts discussed by the only two (URL) plagiarists> I know on LUGNET. Before you both continue this (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Pause!
 
This is the sort of thing that I take some refuge when the world around me seems too complicated; it kinda provides a much needed (URL) PAUSE>. I know, I know... panem et circenses. It isn't exactly a political debate, rather something of a more (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) "GWB's puppets of tyranny" sounds about right. Most people here think of this as a military invasion and therefore, an illegal intrusion in another country. The fact that Saddam isn't in power anymore is good, but the price to pay was too (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Shrek 2
 
(...) No it wasn't wrong. or inappropriate. They didn't refer to anything sexual. It's a feminin underwear. No mentions as to what it could mean, i.e. being a transvestite or being sexy. It was simply an underwaer. A Thong! What's wrong about that? (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) See, now that's what I'm talking about. You debators probably all know what you meant by that sentence. I'm gonna have to look up "rhetorically" and find out what it means in that context. (...) Well, he's got me fooled then. I have enough (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) No I don't. It's grammatically correct, yes but rhetorically, it's quite weak. He dodges questions, doesn't address refutations, writes as if he doesn't get the point of other people's arguments even when spelt out in detail, and doesn't make (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) I don't know how. His writing is like a powerful magnetic field. Very polarizing. Normally my perspective spins around, tilting ever so slightly to the right these days. But in his presence I feel compelled to align myself against him. I don't (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
 
(...) Even if it is, it is policy (which is my point anyway). (...) Again, this is not our policy. (...) It doesn't. (...) They have more evidence than I, but I'm not sure it even matters to me anyway. (...) He still takes his orders from men, not (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: work-pages & bridge postcards
 
(...) That must be some sort of slur against the UK, because his grammar is fine. So you must be saying it's too good to pass muster, or something. Which, as an anglophile, I resent. :-) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) I must admit to enjoying this (URL). Scott A (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: work-pages & bridge postcards
 
(...) I wonder why....too many Lefties on the faculty already? I know why they won't let you teach grammar>;^D JOHN (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
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  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Clearly? Please cite for those of us less enlightened than you. JOHN (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Forget Dave, forget John. I was talking about you. Let me get this straight. Was I mistakenly reading anti-american sentiments into your remarks? I got the distinct impression that you despise me and everyone like me from your writings. To me (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
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  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Let's look at my "disturbing" (URL) again: Don: Were the IRA ever called freedom fighters? Scott: I expect they were; much of their funds came from the USA after all. Read and think about what I'm linking. I'm saying the IRA and the USA are (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) I'm not sure what you mean by that. Usually your writing is a bit long for me, but fairly clear. (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: work-pages & bridge postcards
 
(...) It is viewable. It can be found via (URL). What do you think? (...) Indeed, that is why the page has links to some of my publications. I'm not embarassed by my work, I now just choose not to talk about it here. No big deal. (...) I don't (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) It takes more than energy. Scott A (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Nuts. I thought you were calling the words incoherent. Anyhow, I posted that as an attempt to show the ill effects of the emotionally charged language some people use in here. I don't have the energy to produce those kinds of words on my own. (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
 
(...) I agree with the latter part; torture is notoriously unreliable as an information source. However, it is becoming increasingly clear that the torture at Abu Ghraib (and likely elsewhere) was endorsed by high ranking military personnel, up to (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: work-pages & bridge postcards
 
(...) I'm confused by that. Is it a public site or not? You'd get the feeling that Scott is embarassed by his work. (I do recall asking repeatedly what his doctorate was in and his curious refusal to answer directly). I look at that work site and I (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
 
(...) A number? No. An example of their cruel, savage barbarism? Yes. War is different. Basically in war, you are saying to your enemy, "Surrender to us, or we probably will kill you." Even at any time in war, surrender is an option and the killing (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
 
(...) Huh? 4 terms? 4 years maybe. (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) It did sound familiar, yes. (...) No argument there, Dave. I merely point out the fact it appears incoherent to denounce whomever complains in o-t.d, and then go and do the same thing. In no way I criticize the content or style of the post; (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) I've always associated "disturbed" with Dave! But not in a serious, bad way. More of a good way. I don't see him as rabid, I see him more as "consistent". Some of his premises are fallacious, but he's mostly on the side of the angels, as they (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) If I may-- Don used a previous posting of someone (who shall remain nameless) and quoted almost word for word, substituting Iraq, AQ, et al, with Africa, UN, et al. I thought it was a fine demonstration of wording that can be used in other (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: work-pages & bridge postcards
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote: snip (...) All I have is my personal website-- (URL) sometimes you'll see pics of me, which are usually humourous in and of themselves... snip (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
 
(...) <snip> (...) When? If this is still about Iraq (and I didn't see in the conversation where it strayed from Iraq), when did Iraq act against you? Again I ask, 'how many Iraqi citizens were involved in 9/11? How many Saudis? And yet you use 9/11 (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Rabid, Dave! :-O (...) Note this is the "off-topic" section - if you start speaking LEGO here, it gets kinda weird... there are better groups for that (most of lugnet, really) Then again, I am not the curator; Lar is better qualified than I am (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Plastic coins
 
(...) Note the smiley! :-P (...) Tough one! I'll send you a list through e-mail, in an excel spreadsheet, if you like. I have a number of eurocoins for trade too, if you're interested. Pedro (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Sure, why not. Hateful sentiments are disturbing regardless of the source. For instance, I find Dave Schuler's rabidness disturbing as well, but I take comfort in the fact that he's still somehow able to find time for the megablocks. You are (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Would you say that quite so readily if I were an American? BTW: I'm sorry if you are disturbed. ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Losing hearts and minds - Chaos in occupied Africa (aka something that floats)
 
(...) Sorry about that. I sorta borrowed the words. I don't write very well myself and those words just screamed righteous indignation at me in their original context, even though I couldn't fathom the reasoning behind them. I guess I got a bit lost (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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