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Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
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Fri, 28 May 2004 18:43:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > > Richard
> > > Still baldly going...
> > 
> > Now this is why I hang out here..
> > 
> > Very nicely stated, Richard.
> 
> Hmmm, I thought it was a bit long winded and sort of lost track at
> the per capita part.  In my politically incorrect world it seems a
> large part of the problem is those darned capitas.  The third world
> produces so many of them it messes up the whole per thing.  In first
> world public school we were beaten senseless with the "no more than 2.1
> per" mantra.  But following that rule in the first world, and not in
> the 3rd leads to an even greater imbalance between the per capitas.
> I think that's the real reason for all the really nasty problems, but
> I don't know how to fix it.

Well, part of the reason that people in third-world nations have 10 kids is
because 80% of those kids will likely die before puberty.  Obviously that's not
an inviolable statistic, and just as obviously it's not the only cause of skewed
population growth, but it's a big factor.  As a remedy, we first world nations
should probably consider other forms of aid than abstinence-based education.

Further, if first world nations faced a similar youth-based mortality rate, then
we'd see a revision of the 2.1 rule.

Dave!



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  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) You don't actually have to look to the 3rd world to see the problem. It exists in your own backyard. The have-nots everywhere seem to reproduce faster. The imbalance will always exist, maybe it's programmed into our genes. You can bicker over (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Hi. 80% mortality? Not likely. In fact, the opposite is true; that's what's helping the problem of overpopulation along. The real pushing force is the *labor value* of children; in agricultural societies--or, better put, societies that still (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) There is a negative correlation between the average family size and the per capita GDP (or any of a number of other economic maturity indicators), in that as GDP goes up, people have less children. This is attributed to the shift away from (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Hmmm, I thought it was a bit long winded and sort of lost track at the per capita part. In my politically incorrect world it seems a large part of the problem is those darned capitas. The third world produces so many of them it messes up the (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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