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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Terry Prosper wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Tim Courtney wrote:
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Youre right, John. I have a big problem with teaching kids that young about
erotic attire and attitudes. One example I especially loathe -- and you may
have seen this in your time out shopping -- is Club Libby Lu. They teach
4-year-olds the I can shake it like that song among other things, and in
my opinion, all of the promiscuous themes that go along with it.
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I agree. Some songs are sexually explicit or have dance moves to sensual for
4 y.o. But then again, a 4 y.o. doesnt understand as much as a 13 y.o...
And would you tell your 13 y.o. not to see Shrek 2 because of the Thong
scene? Could you tell him/her that the popular music is too sexy for his/her
age?
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Im more concerned about the indoctrination of the 4yo than I am about the 13yo
being exposed to the reference he/she already understands. Kids today are being
taught more and more about sexuality at a younger age -- the problem is theyre
being taught and told how to act about it by the entertainment industry, not
their parents.
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The hip-hop music and its celebration of promiscuity, hedonism,
objectification of women, etc will only teach our children that these
attitudes and actions are acceptable and expected of them. I fear for the
generation going through grade school and Jr. High right now, and what the
entertainment profiteers messages will inspire them to do when theyre
older. It is truly dangerous.
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Hmmm... Hedonism is acceptable to me. What isnt is the objectification of
women. Now, you seem to put those 2 together, as if they go together, but
women have a sexuality and they too can appreciate it.
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They *do* go together, because the producers of media content (that most consume
without questioning it, like sheep led to the slaughter) put the two together.
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What this generation
will do when they are older isnt any worst than what my generation did. Our
elders thought the same about us. this line of thought you have (its
dangerous!) is very retro. All generations seem to go further than the
previous generation, but in the end, its called evolution. Would you rather
have the man working, the woman at home like a couple of decades ago? Well,
if my parents didnt act outrageously when they were young, maybe the society
would still be like that. Fortunately, they helped our society evolve by
breaking taboos. I am all for it.
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I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you.
I think it is unraveling society. It is teaching children to be more selfish,
image-driven, careless towards others, greedy, and destructive. And the part
that infuriates me the most is this cultural change is driven by a profit motive
-- it isnt natural -- the media is encouraging it and theres big money to be
made. They dont care about the social cost, they dont care about the lives it
destroys, they just care about becoming filthy rich.
Entertainment today is not serving the public good. I dont believe the popular
music industry has much to do with art as it does with profit and exploitation
of artists. What the industry is doing is sedating the masses, depoliticizing
them, giving them temporary soma so they forget about political and social
issues that affect them, and disincenting them to excel. They send the message
that everyone deserves a lavish lifestyle--without the work that is associated
with earning it. It has created, and will continue to create, a society of young
brats who think the world owes them something without any effort expended on
their part. A generation who believes the only social problems in the world are
the fact that their boyfriend screwed them and left, or that Nick and Jessica
got into a fight on Newlyweds last week.
-Tim
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