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Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 28 May 2004 20:31:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun wrote:
> > 80% mortality? Not likely. In fact, the opposite is true;
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> Well, all right--80% is a gross exaggeration. Still, infant death rates
> are sharply higher in third world nations than in the "developed"
> countries. Lemmee take another looksee...
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> According to this site:
> http://www.photius.com/wfb1999/rankings/infant_mortality_0.html
> in 1999 more than 30 nations had infant mortality rates over 9% (most of them in
> sub-Saharan Africa), compared with .063% in the US and .058% in the UK.
> On the other hand, Saudi Arabia, itself a wealthy nation, had a rate of 38.8%.
> That's pretty high, too.
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> Wait a minute--Papua New Guinea clocked a 76% child mortality rate in 2001, so
> maybe I'm not too far off-track.
!!! Divide it by ten, sir.
Really, you're way off. Read your links again. The statistics
give the number of deaths *per 1,000 live births* not the number
per *100* live births. So that's 7.6%, not too far off in a very
poor country. Considering it was 5.58% in 1999, though, it
suggests they're getting poorer. So Saudi Arabia is 3.88%, and
so on, and so forth. All figures are pretty low, even the 10%-
plus ones in Africa, that mostly have to do with such utter and
extreme poverty plus tropical disease that it's virtually
unimaginable. And, granted, these figures do not include the
many unregistered births and the lovely incidence of infanticide
which is still with us (even in the First World).
> I hate it when you get in on a debate--it means that I always have to start
> checking my figures and citations...
I suppose I oughta stick around, then.
all best
LFB
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