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Followup to yesterday: "The two faces of Rumsfeld" (URL) director of a company which wins $200m contract to sell nuclear reactors to North Korea 2002: declares North Korea a terrorist state, part of the axis of evil and a target for regime change (...) (21 years ago, 10-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Why should the U.S. engage in these activities in the first place? The fact that people placed highly in goverment are probably reaping some kind of on/offshore monitary benefit only makes it worse. I am also non-patisan on the issue -- Clinton (...) (21 years ago, 10-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The agreed framework ((URL) was a bad idea when the Clinton administration put it forth, and it continued to be a bad idea all along. How bad an idea indeed, we know now, since the DPRK was apparently violating it all along. But under the terms of (...) (21 years ago, 10-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am sorry to make you a scapegoat Scott, but this is one nit I have to pick. Irregardless is not a word, it is a double negative. What you actually mean is 'regardless' which means 'without regard to'. If 'irregardless' was a word it would (...) (21 years ago, 10-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is pretty clear why that aid had to go then. The "man monkey" is no moron. ;) Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 9-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I am going to say that being called corrupt is worse. If one is a moron that usually represents a natural born deficiency, someone who is a moron is not simply unlearned, or unwise, but possessing a level of retardation. To say someone is corrupt (...) (21 years ago, 9-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would have said that Dubya's policies are moronic. However, what the aide actually said was, "George Bush.... what a moron!" Thus, in order to stay true to the actual quotation and the resulting political tizzy, I used the original, not my (...) (21 years ago, 9-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Was the term not "moronic"? Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 9-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Rumsfeld, Nukes, North Korea and $$$$
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I read this in "shock and awe": “Donald Rumsfeld, the US secretary of defense, was on the board of technology giant ABB when it won a deal to supply North Korea with two nuclear power plants.” (URL) quite as bad his selling WOMD to Iraq... but (...) (21 years ago, 9-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) can almost make out the strings... =) -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 9-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would say being labeled a moron is far better than being labeled corrupt. (...) Why stop with Dubya? We should get rid of the whole lot and reinstate the constitution as our basis of government. (You know where everyone follows the same (...) (21 years ago, 9-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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.A Change ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ (Not so much a` BIG change, but a `SMALL improvement!) !An open letter to the Lugnet community and it’s creators: I'm proposing that a change take place in our lovely Lugnet community. Not a radical revolution, but simply just a (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.people, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.curators, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.announce)
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So a Canadian Parliamentary aide called Dubya a 'moron' a while back, and that sent everyone into a tizzy. Now the Mayor of London says Dubya's corrupt: (URL) would you rather be--labeled as a moron or labeled corrupt? I, like the mayor of London, (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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So I did a little googling (what a wonderful thing that is...) Found this little article: (URL) basically lays out what our senate is today, and what certain reformers want, i.e. EEE Senate--elected being part of that. but, as the author also (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Party that has the most seats in the house are 'in power', and the party in Power has the PM--PM's are voted on by the party. The senate in Canada, on the other hand, are appointees. When a seat becomes vacant, whichever PM is in power (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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!!! (...) I thought that in a parlimentary type government like in Canada and many European countries, the Prime Minister and the parliment are from the same party (unless no one has a majority and then there is a coalition) Lester (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What do those scenarios have to do with what actually happen? If you are implying that the gang will forcibly drive customers away, then that is a straw man argument (thar ya go, John) since the Christian Right is saying that they are only (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I rather liked it. You'll note the Pastor had no problems with guns in Wal-Mart; it was the woman’s lingerie that he felt did not belong in a family store. ;) Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <nodding, a la Wayne> Good one. JOHN (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Here's a tangent on this topic-- (URL) which one of our more esteemed ward councillors in the Big Smoke is in a wee bit of a tizzy against an advert. Seems that "Nellie Pedro, a Toronto District School Board trustee" doesn't like a commercial made (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, if it isn't coercion, I'd like it defined. How is this different from a gang-like group walking into "Mom-n-Pop Hair Salon" and telling them "Pay up or you'll start losing money?" Well, that's a little extreme and called extortion, so (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Except, perhaps, a Democrat President? Cheers Richie Dulin (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The New Yorker, The Talk of theTown, DEPT. OF CONNECTIONS "THE CONTRACTORS" (URL) there is a new and demonstrable connection, but it is not the kind that the Bush Administration had in mind. In fact, it is more likely to fuel the speculations of (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Newsbits: The Lies and Profits Continue
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"Halliburton has wider Iraq role" (URL) Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), who asked for more details on the Halliburton contract, said, "It now appears ... that the contract with Halliburton -- a company with close ties to the administration -- can (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How much it's different? Not sure I follow. Burning books, well do you mean me burning my books? If I do so safely and in a place permitted to do so (my property) that's free speech, I'm making a statement about the books. Or do you mean jack (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The 'smoking gun', as it were... The truck was cleaned with bleach so they can't find any traces of bio weapons. Let's find the flaw in that logic-- "Hey Iraqi Official 1--The Americans are going to invade--we want to show that we weren't (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why post stupid things like that? You leave the impression that that actually occured. JOHN (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Patience is a virtue: (URL) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think so. I attacked the quotation. *He* transferred my attack and applied to the author himself (whom I don't even know). That wasn't my point. (...) I think the coined phrase is "fictitious";-) (...) Of course. That is the way it (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry Dave, but that's not the point. Doesn't matter *who* they were just so long as they're Wal*Mart customers. Wal*Mart SHOULD be responding to their customer's demands. It's just that (and I agree here) those demands are stupid. Should (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Funny. Another "John Neal" moment for debate I guess. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're misusing the term "straw man" as, ironically, a straw man argument. Non-applicable, a non-sequitor, too obscure, suspect TV "philosophy", perhaps. A straw man argument: The author attacks an argument which is different from, and usually (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) These aren't activist Christians--these are pseudo-Christians who haven't got a clue, and only want to enforce their morals on everyone else. Christian activists are the ones who were marching in Toronto a few months back protesting against (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pressuring companies into compliance via this method is *not* the market in action. Market in action is not buying said product. There's a huge difference. What if Jewish people start pressuring all grocery stores into only selling 'kosher' (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <lots of snipping> Ya know, there is a big thing going on in San Diego this weekend- Billy Graham (and others) is coming to town at the "Q" stadium. (No, I'm not going if your curious.) Anyhow, about a mile North of the stadium (and 1-1/2 from (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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A search for "Wal*Mart" & "Christians" led me to this: Like Jesus in the Temple, Furious Pastor Flips Display Tables and Destroys an Entire Wal-Mart (URL) may offend some readers] Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Straw man-- I was referring to the cited quotation. I can't speak about the show since I have never actually seen it, but I don't rule out that he is indeed devoid of substance and meaning, which is entirely possible. Unlike the "Christian" (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) LOL, Why do I find it funny that activist Christians threaten to boycott Wal-Mart if they do not obey them. Then, when they cave to that pressure, Dave is unhappy and in turn threatens the exact same type of boycott, meanwhile criticizing the (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, it's a quotation taken from a television producer/writer that has one of the best shows on television--a show that actually discusses issues of political, moral, and ethical issues--I guess that makes him basically devoid of substance (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A example of an intolerant generalization that is devoid of substance and meaning. (...) Prove? Cites? More BS generalizations. (...) Yes, and Christians certainly don't believe that. The Gospel revealed by Jesus is that God loves everyone (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Times said that the company's standards and the magazines' content have not changed, but the firm has been under pressure from Christian groups in the past for its sale of certain magazines. " Another reason why these "Christians" are not my (...) (21 years ago, 6-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nice. X-Files has nothing on this--"The Truth is Out There"? Not if US administration has anything to say about it. Of all the...I'm at a loss for words as to just how ludicrous this whole war really was. And to top it off, the Iraqi people, (...) (21 years ago, 6-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Nicholas Kristof: Why truth matters" (URL) I raised the Mystery of the Missing W.M.D. recently, hawks fired barrages of reproachful e-mail at me. The gist was: "You ****! Who cares if we never find weapons of mass destruction, because we've (...) (21 years ago, 6-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not actually, the third road is to implement preventatives that do nothing touching on individual privacy or denying anyone the most fundamental of civil rights. For example, planes could and should have been made more secure years ago -- it (...) (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Being an avid X-Men reader for nearly twenty years now, I feel that I am at least somewhat qualified to speak on this. First off this guy’s assertion that this is an anti-Bush movie is stretching so much that even Mr. Fantastic would have trouble (...) (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Help Wanted: Jobless in America (URL) the software slump in India" (URL) India (Reuters) --The shining glass facades, swimming pools, gyms and in-house pizza joints are still there, but the mood is sombre on the campuses of India's software firms. (...) (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. What matters is how happy we are. There is no point in sidelining our friends & family just to "conform". Scott A (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Welcome to Globalisation! It’s a pity that the market is governed by price & not ethics… (...) ... and millions go without healthcare. I understand that the Cuban system may be better than that offered to some in the USA? (...) Sure, they can (...) (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I lived there a year and don't even have an accent to show for it. My yankee grandma didn't like being called ma'am, either. Go figger. :-) Amy (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) But you didn't make a claim that "the percentage of people in this country without a roof over their heads, electricity, and running water is much higher than in most places" in your earlier post. You claimed that "[the] standard (...) (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am generally not a big fan of throwing out unsubstanciated numbers to back up a point, but I believe the last numbers I saw showed that the top 10% of wage earners in the US started at $75,000 a year. I also saw a survey that showed that 90% (...) (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. Australians appear to be similar. (...) Absolutely. A good average standard of living is not necessarily an indicator that the average person has a good standard of living. I always wonder why people who would never favour dividing the (...) (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wish I could locate a cite right now, but the average american believes wrongly that they are within the top 1-5% of the wealthy in the U.S. Costello believes wrongly that the average american is doing well economically, but is probably (...) (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello writes: <snip> (...) Who is the average person? How do you know his or her standard of living is still really good compared to other nations? Cheers Richie (21 years ago, 4-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Please note before I start that these are not necessarily my views, but arguments against these two things not based on morality. As for pornography and prostitution, every time a strip club, adult bookstore, or house of prostitution opens up, (...) (21 years ago, 4-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The reason you won't hear a debate about porn and prostitution without morals cropping up is that that is the ONLY argument against these issues. The worst thing the US Supreme Court ever did to free speech was to define obscenity as community (...) (21 years ago, 4-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Wall Street to ship research jobs to India" (URL) Street research analysts have suffered rounds of layoffs, big pay cuts, and accusations that they routinely lied to the investing public. Now there's a new worry -- that their jobs are being shipped (...) (21 years ago, 3-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) By all accounts, Atlanta doesn't really suffer from that kind of thinking, but I suppose it answers the question when people ask why there are still "black colleges" (Morehouse is in Atlanta). -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 3-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Apparently these are private functions, rather than publicly funded ones, so the school can't put its foot down and insist on just one prom, regrettably... Freedom to associate includes freedom not to associate, remember. Remind me not to move (...) (21 years ago, 3-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have read (and will search for the cite) more annual revenue than professional baseball, football, and basketball combined, but somehow it's still viewed as a perverted fringe product/service/industry. (URL) Dave! (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Seriously, why isn't this stuff legal? Forget the moral issues--what is the downside to legalizing pot? And isn't porn already legal? Can't I walk into AOV and buy por nmovies/magazines? I would love to hear a debate on legalizing prostitution (...) (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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More proof that what is really needed, but will never happen, is an economic Jubilee akin to what is described in the Old Testament. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) baccalaureate will be held by the light of a burning cross. Dave! (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The true irony here is the fact that labor laws have not improved working conditions, just relocated them. The same conditions that were so horrible in this country, now exist in under developed countries, and those manafacturing jobs that (...) (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | The economic benefits of Porn ‘n’ Pot
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Moral issues aside, this makes interesting reading: With pot and porn outstripping corn, America's black economy is flying high (URL) pornography and illegal labour have created a hidden market in the United States which now accounts for as much as (...) (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Employment laws are one of the greatest achievements of most developed countries. Do you want to return to what your grandparents had to endure, or are you not grateful that things have moved on? Our children belong in school not sweatshops. (...) (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Everybody knows the Dice are loaded, Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed. Everybody knows the war is over, Everybody knows the good guys lost. Leonard Cohen right back at you, and it's a little more relevant than I am comfortable with (...) (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
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(...) I think you'd have a hard time demonstrating that's actually true. After all, the best "brainwashing" is one in which the victim thinks there was no undue influence whatever. (...) I suspect there are no such people anywhere on the earth, (...) (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "There's a crack in everything -- that's how the light gets in !" -- Leonard Cohen -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 1-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) theories. This so-called "coverup" is nothing compared to a non-actionable 30-year-old mom&pop land deal or a sexual affair between two consenting adults. THOSE are the issues that the Liberal Media should be tackling. In all seriousness, I'm (...) (21 years ago, 1-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"The Secrets of September 11" (URL) as White House political aides plot a 2004 campaign plan designed to capitalize on the emotions and issues raised by the September 11 terror attacks, administration officials are waging a behind-the-scenes battle (...) (21 years ago, 1-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
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(...) <snip> Have you spoken to other adults who were given that option as children? My understanding is that the problem with this approach is that the child then has no foundation from which to base his decision. I don't have a source, but (...) (21 years ago, 1-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I am not saying anything. I am asking what the difference is. (...) Yet (some) employers do test their employees for drugs and fatigue and physical capacity to carry out tasks. Why not test for (say) malnutrition, when it's going to (...) (21 years ago, 1-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you saying that an employer is now not only responsible for providing a wage, and safe work environment, but now also has a responsibility to assure that their employees are properly fed and rested? If this is the case should a man with (...) (21 years ago, 1-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What is the difference between ensuring workers' don't die at work from an industrial accident and ensuring that workers' don't die at work from starvation? Or for that matter, ensuring workers' don't die from an industrial accident caused by (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> I remember those types of exams, and man did I hate them, I much prefered writing pages of compare and contrast etc. By you description of you study techniques you are obviously a hard worker, but you were motivated by a desire to (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A firm belief in the win-win scenario. Despite my grousing, I am an optimist and an idealist. The optimal result is achieved when everybody wins. When I was in college and faced with the mind-numbing task of having to instantly recall (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Wow, I make a post, go to lunch, come back and the thread now is about me and my religion. (...) Although I do trust in the current president, and appreciate his commitment to religion, this in now way should be misinterpreted as a blind faith and (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> (...) completely (...) K, when I drop by to say Hi, I'm calling first, so you know it's me coming as a fellow AFOL and not a "Bible Thumper" where you'll have to "git yer gun at 'im!" (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Excellent! (...) Yes and no. All debates revolve around appeals to ethos, logos, and pathos. In English these are ethical, logical, and emotional appeals; repectively. In mentioning Xtianity, I was remembering Costello's trust in a praying (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Completely agreed, but blaming Christians because of stupid Christians is as dumb as blaming Muslims for stupid Muslims is as dumb as blaming Athiests for stupid Athiests... My compassion, I like to think, comes from my Christian values, but (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Shrub has made Xtianity the excuse of every depraved thing his administration stands for. I stand behind my comment though further discussion may be futile. Again, and I stress it, wouldn't it be better to simply be compassionate? The (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> (...) Hey Richard, can we not bring Christianity into *one* thread? It wasn't mentioned before and equating Scotts ideas to Christianity is wrongful and unwarranted in this instance. I'm (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, you bury your head in the sand hoping that unpleasant facts will simply go away. ---...--- "Unprecedented verdict frees Adidas shoe worker in Indonesia" (URL) 1993 a worker named Marsinah, in a situation very similar to Ngadinah's, was (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This is turning out to be a better thread than I originally surmized--I wasn't sure where to jump in, but here's a good a place as any :) (...) YOur grandpa left an oppressed country to come to "the promised land". My grandparents did the same (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "US troops 'shoot dead two more Iraqis'" (URL) troops today opened fire on Iraqi civilians for the second time this week as an angry crowd in Falluja protested over an earlier shooting. ---...--- -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Me clueless? maybe on somethings, but I don't thiink this is it, I just disagree with you. The only poor I live off the backs off is my grandparents who left their repressive country for a free nation where inspite of difficulty they were able (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank you for pointing out the key fundamental ideological difference between communist/socialists and capitalists. When a person starts a business, what is their primary concern? To make money, any business hoping to stay in business needs to (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did I say that? (...) Who mentioned the USA? (...) ...and who supported him? The "West" perhaps? (...) Hong Kong has [or at least had] one of the freest markets in the world. Have you seen what life is like in that country? I'll stay in (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, you really haven't a clue have you? That's it, just keep living your comfortable american life on the backs of the poor. Energy is limitless... Anybody else want to tackle this one? I am not sure I can do it without getting banned from (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And so there goes the myth presented by the anti-capitalists, these big fat cat tycoons light their cigars with $100 bills while their employees all slave away in sweat shops. Poor economic conditions in Iraq are the fault of the west? This is (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you extend that to intellectual property? The evidence suggests otherwise. (...) I would have thought that "The principal reason for the failure of capitalism to gain a stable foothold in most of the developing world" is the tendency for (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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so opines Khaled Saffuri, saying "For Iraq to be free, property must belong to its people.", in a editorial column in today's USA Today. (URL) view is also held by Hernando de Soto, and by me... quoting: - start - Iraq is not the only country (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, but the bullets had "freedom" written all over them... Scott A (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Given the dark news from Tel Aviv overnight, I thought this may be of interest to some: (URL) a study of the "logic" of suicide terrorism. The text is reviewed here: What makes a martyr? (URL) an economist, I try to understand the world in terms of (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) And now Larry's corrpupting folks from all over the world, ne? (URL) K (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Iraqis killed in anti-US protest" (URL) least 13 Iraqis are reported to have been killed in the town of Falluja when US forces opened fire on demonstrators on Monday night. ---...--- "A new Intifada?" (URL) television said on Tuesday 10 people were (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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US pulls out of Saudi Arabia (URL) what OBL wanted? No doubt the USA presence in the region will be moved to Iraq... without the consent of the Iraqi people... whilst those who oppose US rule are being arrested: US arrests 'Baghdad mayor' (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"U.S. Undermining Arms Control - Experts" (URL) says it would be advisable for U.S. military forces to forego their current search and permit an international team of arms inspectors to verify Iraq's nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. Such (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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