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Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
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Fri, 2 May 2003 14:59:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

Employment laws are one of the greatest achievements of most developed
countries.  Do you want to return to what your grandparents had to endure, or
are you not grateful that things have moved on? Our children belong in school
not sweatshops. Access to education should be based on merit; not the
endeavours [good or bad] of our ancestors.

The true irony here is the fact that labor laws have not improved working
conditions, just relocated them. The same conditions that were so horrible
in this country, now exist in under developed countries, and those
manafacturing jobs that everyone complains about are no longer available.
Have all employment laws been failures? no, here in America we have the
richest poor in the world, and standard of living for the average person is
still really good compared to other nations.

Finally access to education should be based on both ability to achieve and
ability to pay. High achieving poor should, and do have many avenues whereby
they have access to any university they choose. The rich can simply "buy"
their way in. It's not pretty or idealistic but the universities need money
just like everyone else. Push comes to shove though, ten years into your
professional career, the prestige of your university doesn't really matter much.

Scott C.



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  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
More proof that what is really needed, but will never happen, is an economic Jubilee akin to what is described in the Old Testament. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello writes: <snip> (...) Who is the average person? How do you know his or her standard of living is still really good compared to other nations? Cheers Richie (22 years ago, 4-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Welcome to Globalisation! It’s a pity that the market is governed by price & not ethics… (...) ... and millions go without healthcare. I understand that the Cuban system may be better than that offered to some in the USA? (...) Sure, they can (...) (22 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Employment laws are one of the greatest achievements of most developed countries. Do you want to return to what your grandparents had to endure, or are you not grateful that things have moved on? Our children belong in school not sweatshops. (...) (22 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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