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Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
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Wed, 30 Apr 2003 18:00:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello writes:
As for your assertion about exploitation, bear in mind there are two worlds,
the way things should be and the way things are. Let’s use Nike as an
example, as anti-capitalists everywhere seem to revel in tearing them down.
First off why does a company like Nike move it’s manufacturing out of the
US? Well that’s easy because they know that minimum wage laws cut deeply
into profit, so they look to under-developed countries like Indonesia for
inexpensive labor. They do not enter villages with guns forcing these people
to work, there is no overseer with a whip beating them if their performance
is sub par.

Wow, you really haven't a clue have you?  That's it, just keep living your
comfortable american life on the backs of the poor.  Energy is limitless...

Me clueless? maybe on somethings, but I don't thiink this is it, I just
disagree with you. The only poor I live off the backs off is my grandparents
who left their repressive country for a free nation where inspite of
difficulty they were able to earn a living, and provide for his family. His
hard manual work in a free country enabled his sons to go to college and
make a good life for themselves. So yes, my level of comfort comes precicely
because my grandfather made the neccessary sacrifices to make them possible.

Energy from the sun is limitless, too bad we don't use it more, either way
it's getting expensive.

Anybody else want to tackle this one?  I am not sure I can do it without
getting banned from off-topic.debate...

Why should anyone ban you, I feared when I started posting here that I would
get involved in some sort of immature name calling thread, but I have found
most of the responses to my posts to be insightful and well thought out
(Most not all :)). So please go ahead, tell me off, tell me how wrong you
think I am, that is why I post, you won't hurt my feelings, unless you tell
me my Moc's suck :).

Scott



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  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
This is turning out to be a better thread than I originally surmized--I wasn't sure where to jump in, but here's a good a place as any :) (...) YOur grandpa left an oppressed country to come to "the promised land". My grandparents did the same (...) (22 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) No, you bury your head in the sand hoping that unpleasant facts will simply go away. ---...--- "Unprecedented verdict frees Adidas shoe worker in Indonesia" (URL) 1993 a worker named Marsinah, in a situation very similar to Ngadinah's, was (...) (22 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Employment laws are one of the greatest achievements of most developed countries. Do you want to return to what your grandparents had to endure, or are you not grateful that things have moved on? Our children belong in school not sweatshops. (...) (22 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Wow, you really haven't a clue have you? That's it, just keep living your comfortable american life on the backs of the poor. Energy is limitless... Anybody else want to tackle this one? I am not sure I can do it without getting banned from (...) (22 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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