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Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
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Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:55:26 GMT
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Mookie wrote in message <3725365E.E07AA303@execpc.com>...
<snip>
Dons flame retardant suit, though doesn't matter, no one listens to me
anyway :)
Tamy
Larry Pieniazek wrote:
Here's a real example of why you should have to beat the top of a proxy
by the min increment.
On serious collector, check out lot A 1382:
http://www.seriouscollector.com/auction/lot.cfm?lotID=A1382
A1382      Lego Dacta Bonanza: Controller, P/S, ISA  Card, Lab Kits (2)
   maico  $55.50   $55.00   $55.00
I bid this with a solid proxy bid of 55.00. Seems to me that if Maico
can beat my bid by 50 cents, I shouldn't have to beat his by 3.00 (after
applying rounding rules against a bump of 5%).
Nothing against Maico, he's bidding under the rules, but I'm still not
happy.
Larry Pieniazek    http://my.voyager.net/lar

   Larry, I think you already pointed this out - I had mentioned to Todd (in
this group), that people should only be able to bid by the increments, as a
way to eliminate this.  I did see this implemented on an obscure auction,
where instead of typing the bid, there was a drop down menu with the
permissible bids up to a certain amount (it allowed for a buyout price,
too).  With that drop down menu, although I just thought it was another
silly variation, it actually eliminated the chance of being outbid by a
penny or anything less than the increment.  Also, it decreases the
possibility of using a shill to bump up the price because in the event of a
tie, the first bidder gets the item at the exact price both bid, thus the
shill could easily go too high.  Since it is NOT fair (people complain when
things aren't fair, so I have seen) for one guy to take the bid by a penny,
when the previous bidder has to bid the full increment to get it back, I do
like this one feature of that particular auction (although I never found
Lego on it).


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  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
(...) Right. Derick had described the rules and we came up with a theoretical example. This is a real one that impacts me and I'm not too thrilled about it. - I had mentioned to Todd (in (...) That's not a bad system either. (25 years ago, 27-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
Larry, I think you already pointed this out - I had mentioned to Todd (in (...) Ouch. Chris, you are obscure! And *I* thought it was Jude;-) Check out (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)

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  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
Well in that case I guess you'd have to do some math and make your proxy the amount of percentage it should be in order for them to have to beat you by the percent rate. At least that's what I would do. I think the way it's done now is fair, you (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)

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