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    A new pirate ship. —Richard Parsons
   Gentlemen, With all this Captain John E. Doolittle stuff (and that's not over - go (URL) and see where its up to and make your mark), I find myself hankering for a decent pirate ship. Not one of these RR or AF builds - I mean like the Agamemnon (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
   
        Re: A new pirate ship. —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) A two gun deck pirate ship? Ah....a Hollywood vessel! That's just up the freeway from the lab here in Pasadena. :-) (...) Honestly, you can take the ninja banners and Brasso off the designs. You might want to check for inverse slopes and (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
   
        Re: A new pirate ship. —Timothy D. Freshly
      Richard Parsons <rparsons@hinet.net.au> wrote in message news:FnwvCu.Hx7@lugnet.com... (...) Richard: This is a marvelous little piece of storytelling. You've done a great job of weaving the story lines developed here in lugnet.pirates and meshing (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: A new pirate ship. —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) I feel off my chair laughing about sailing with Impunity! It was a great amalgam of the ideas bandied about here. Bruce (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Richard Parsons
     Timothy D. Freshly wrote in message ... (...) paragraphs preceding the one which begins "And these weren't all his problems...", you were talking about the widower Waite, Doolittle's former law partner. However, in this paragraph, you appear to (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Timothy D. Freshly
      Richard Parsons <rparsons@hinet.net.au> wrote in message news:FnxrtJ.un@lugnet.com... (...) Museum (...) cages (...) to (...) were saying that his "first act of piracy" was practicing law - the inference being that it was no great step to go from (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Richard Parsons
     Timothy D. Freshly wrote (...) vessle, (...) such (...) Sounds great to me - I'll add it in the next update :-) But what about his adventures on the high seas - is nothing known at all? Doesn't anyone know anything about what he got up to? A (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Tony Priestman
     On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Richard Parsons (<Fo5yxv.3nE@lugnet.com>) wrote at 09:13:50 (...) Report in 'a London newspaper': DUTCH EAST INDIA COMPANY LOSES FACE It is reported that a ship of the Dutch East India company was attacked in the South Pacific, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Jacob Sparre Andersen
      Tony Priestman: (...) [...] (...) Wonderful!!! LOL Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL: (URL) > -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) "What kind of party pirates be ye, ya silly nits? I TOLD ye to spike the PUNCH, not the guns!" An alleged pirate-type but not until ye prove it in court or I'll have a personal-injury anti-defamation suit slapped on you so fast.... (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle. —Timothy D. Freshly
        Bruce Schlickbernd <corsair@schlickbernd.org> wrote in message news:Fo6HLL.8wK@lugnet.com... (...) all? (...) clipping (...) And I think I know a certain parrot who would be willing to advise you on your case... Tim (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle. —Richard Parsons
       Timothy D. Freshly wrote in message ... (...) For a fee perhaps. I mean, Impunity may be a parrot, and a pretty stupid one at that, but he's still a lawyer ;-) Richard Still baldly going... Check out Port Block at (URL) the change in URL - Port (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle, page updated —Richard Parsons
       Gentlemen (and others ;-) Timothy Freshly has joined the writer's guild. Still a few empty chairs at the authors' table, and plenty of rum. (URL) baldly going... Check out Port Block at (URL) the change in URL - Port Block is moving over the next (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle, page updated —Timothy D. Freshly
       I am honored. Thank you. On to another suggestion. As you have already set out in the story, Doolittle sends money back to his wife in England to provide for her. However, her affair with Waite becomes more public, eventually reaching the ears of (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle, —Richard Parsons
       Timothy D. Freshly wrote another worthy sub-plot element. Minor mods makes this "Aurora gently tells Doolittle of his wife's infidelity. In the best traditions of the understanding male, Doolittle repressed his hurt feelings, saw his wife's issues (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle, —Timothy D. Freshly
         Richard Parsons <rparsons@hinet.net.au> wrote in message news:Fo9xuw.EpC@lugnet.com... [snip] (...) giving (...) a (...) I guess this comes from me actually being an attorney (and a happily-married one at that). Chalk one literary idea to the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
       
            Re: John E. Doolittle, —Bruce Schlickbernd
         (...) But OF COURSE Lawyers give marital advice, and it's always the same: GET A DIVORCE! I mean, how the heck can lawyers make money otherwise? It wasn't much of a career change to go from Lawyer to Pirate, after all. (oooOOOOoooOOOOOooo, I'm a bad (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
       
            Re: John E. Doolittle, —Richard Parsons
        Timothy D. Freshly wrote in message ... (...) happily-married one at that) Forget about ad-hoc advice - you want to be writing a book for lawyers! A happily married lawyer....... So like, wow ;-) I'll have to go back and look at whether I can work (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle, —Lindsay Frederick Braun
        Hi, By the way, just a potential "checkbook" oops--did the story begin compiling so long ago, on 5 January 1999? Just saw it on the page and was curious. It all looks magnificent, though--and the story holds together nicely. That Johnny Thunder (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle, —Richard Parsons
       Mr L F Braun wrote in message <387E6DA4.CB015F6F@p...su.edu>... (...) compiling so long ago, on 5 January 1999? Got it. Killed it dead ;-) Richard Still baldly going... Check out Port Block at (URL) the change in URL - Port Block is moving over the (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle. —Tony Priestman
       On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Bruce Schlickbernd (<Fo6HLL.8wK@lugnet.com>) wrote at 15:56:09 (...) Arr, they're a rum lot! But at least they're not your here toddy, gone tomorrow buccaneers. 'Where's your buccaneers?' (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle. —Richard Parsons
      Bruce Schlickbernd indicated that he was (...) Now it seems to me that there is an opening here for a bright, technically able parrot to make quite a tidy living out of this sort of behaviour. Impunity might end up hanging out a shingle. Richard (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Richard Parsons
     Tony Priestman wrote in message ... (...) the South Pacific, and native artefacts, including one of the head statues from Easter Island were removed from the vessel. None of the crew were killed, but all of the armament on the Dutch ship was spiked. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Lindsay Frederick Braun
      (...) Ooops-the Dutch East India Company operating out of London? I don't think so--for a long time the British and Dutch companies were arch-rivals, and the DEIC even slaughtered an English settlement that dared to get too close to Indonesia. The (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Tony Priestman
     On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Mr L F Braun (<387CCD37.8DE52DE2@....msu.edu>) wrote at 18:51:35 (...) Double oops. I missed that. It's got to be the Dutch one though, it's another reason why the Brickish navy isn't too bothered :-) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Richard Parsons
     Tony Priestman wrote (...) so--for a long time the British and Dutch companies were arch-rivals (...) another reason why the Brickish navy isn't too bothered :-) Mmmm, wasn't particularly paying attention myself. Did you know that when at 2am the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Lindsay Frederick Braun
      (...) Yeah--it's understandable. Granted, if I made that particular gaffe at *any* time of day, I'd probably be forced to turn in my Imperial Historian Employment Card. Let's hope they don't find out about my "Boer War starting in 1999" ooops. (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —James Brown
      (...) Employment (...) Heh... Just call it a Y2K bug... everyone else is using it <grin> James (URL) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Tony Priestman
     On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Mr L F Braun (<387E6CA9.1DB73BA2@....msu.edu>) wrote at 00:24:09 (...) Hee hee! Glad to see you're using the Brickish version of the word, rather than the colonial 'Brikish' :-) BTW, Great Brickain is (c) me 1999: (URL) lying (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Lindsay Frederick Braun
      (...) Why wouldn't I? I'm a Bricki...er, British historian, not prone to Colonial degeneralities (oooh, a neologism, ™ me, oh yeah). Ardour, candour, endeavour, and/our...hmm, that last one sounds a bit funny, but the others are aboot (1) right. (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Richard Parsons
     Mr L F Braun wrote in (...) rather than the colonial 'Brikish' :-) (...) Colonial degeneralities (oooh, a neologism, ™ me, oh yeah). Ardour, candour, endeavour, and/our...hmm, that last one sounds a bit funny, but the others are aboot right. Now, (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Tony Priestman
     On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Richard Parsons (<FoBLH7.DHF@lugnet.com>) wrote at 10:13:06 (...) Given that this is an imaginary world, I have no problem with either, and can see advantages in either spelling. I can see where you're coming from completely, (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) I'm for Great Brikain, Brikannic, and Brikish myself. But then, I think "colour" is a silly way to spell color, and I like cheque over check, so I'm not sure you should pay the slightest attention to my opinions. Bruce (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Lindsay Frederick Braun
       DISCLAIMER: I'm a little loopy today. Medication. (...) It also has the LEGO edge--"brik" to me brings to mind "blok," something about which no more should be spoken. 'Nuff said. *suppressing shudder* (...) I hope you mean to get at the (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle. —Tony Priestman
      On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Mr L F Braun (<387F7F9F.766BF76@p....msu.edu>) wrote at 19:57:19 (...) I *knew* there was something about it that made me uneasy :-) (...) Absolutely! Spell checker overridden on that one. (...) Hmmm. Interesting point, but not (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle. —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) Snipping all that stuff that I didn't write.... (...) Kind of like someone from Boston, "I have to pahk the cah." Even my Boston Terrier has to bark, "Bahk, bahk!" :-) Canadians are hard to pick out, but I can usually do it (and these are (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle, weekly update —Richard Parsons
       Let's see.... Tim's 'lawyers giving marital advice' got a guernsey after all 'Brikish' stands for now, while the issue remains open The pics and description of Shangrila were filled out a bit There are a couple of pics of the HMS Guy Fawkes making (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle, weekly update —Tony Priestman
       On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Richard Parsons (<FoFJJ0.76H@lugnet.com>) wrote at 13:15:26 (...) And I want some of the stuff *you're* on as well :-) Not quite a moral imperative, but what if Aurora got captured somewhere, and John E. needed a big ship to (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle, weekly update —Richard Parsons
      Tony Priestman wrote (...) I like this. How do I do minifigs in the appropriate (skimpy) garb - or do you know something about TLCs next release that I don't? regards Richard Still baldly going... Check out Port Block at (URL) the change in URL - (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle, weekly update —Tony Priestman
      On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Richard Parsons (<FoG7w2.BKt@lugnet.com>) wrote at 22:02:14 (...) 'fraid not. Time to call in craigo... Although, thinking about it, an adapted Islander babe might do the trick. (25 years ago, 17-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle, weekly update —Lindsay Frederick Braun
       <FoCEr4.D8C@lugnet.com> <FoFJJ0.76H@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) A cow? :) (...) *LOL* I love the name! I wonder, do they have a problem with the powder magazine on that ship...? Or (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
      Mr L F Braun wrote (...) <<snip>> (...) battle, a happy ending, *and* a tweak of the nose of an amoral Establishment. COOL. In fact this is SO cool, it probably deserves the two syllable rating; COOO-WEL. Agamemnon under Doolittle v a 2 deck slaver! (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle —Lindsay Frederick Braun
       <38824981.7374FB63@p...t.msu.edu> <FoGAr7.1Fv@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Thank God it wasn't any better, or you would have "kewled" me or something (or is that a "1.5" cool?). It (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
      Mr L F Braun wrote a truly epic story. It needs a bit of a beginning. How about..... So, at the height of their (John E. and Aurora's) success, while Waite is broken and penniless having blown his not inconsiderable fortune in vain (and often comic) (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle —Lindsay Frederick Braun
      <3882AC0B.420D2906@p...t.msu.edu> <FoHHML.7B6@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I like it! However, I still really like the theft-with-the-help-...ber-locals thing--after all, that ship (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
     Mr L F Braun wrote (...) theft-with-the-help-...ber-locals thing--after all, that ship will take quite a few people to operate, even if the captain goes along with it (because in order for it to succeed, you've got to do it without most of the (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle (Update) —Richard Parsons
      Guys, Now I know replying to your own posts is not exactly de rigeur, but I could use the expertise of someone who knows something about sailing ships. John E Doolittle has managed to rescue the (I've had just about enough of thinking of (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle (Update) —Richard Parsons
     Guys, Now I know replying to your own posts is not exactly de rigeur, but I could use the expertise of someone who knows something about sailing ships. John E Doolittle has managed to rescue the (I've had just about enough of thinking of (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle (Update) —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Hard a'starboard. A command that will actually turn the boat to the left (port, larboard). The command is which way to turn the wheel, not the boat. I think (and here I was watching the America's Cup last night and didn't notice how it works (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle (Update) —Tony Priestman
      On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Bruce Schlickbernd (<Fp0A9s.4wq@lugnet.com>) wrote at 18:05:52 (...) 200 yards. (...) More when I've read it myself :-) (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
      Tony Priestman wrote (...) Cool. Anyone know how long a chain was? How about a league? And a fathom was about 6 feet, yes? And thanks for the email - I'll get those corrections sorted out over the weekend. regards Richard Still baldly going... Check (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —Ray Sanders
       Quoting from the book [1]: <quote> Units of Linear Measure 1 chain = 100 links = 66 feet 1 mile = 80 chains = 5280 feet Units of Area 1 acre = 10 square chains = 43,560 square feet 1 square mile = 640 acres The chain unit, devised in the seventeenth (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
       Ray Sanders wrote (...) For every fact there is at least one person who knows it. This internet thingie - very clever! Thanks Ray. Richard Still baldly going... Check out Port Block at (URL) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle —Lance Scott
       (...) Not really suited for the seafarer. They tended to use the League, Fathom and Cable. Don't have the specifics for each at hand, but might be able to locate. Like the Story, am sorry my own Lego Dark Age lasted through Pirates. Hope they (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle —Lance Scott
        (...) locate. (...) Found it! Main Entry: league Pronunciation: 'lEg Function: noun Etymology: Middle English leuge, lege, from Late Latin leuga Date: 14th century 1 : any of various units of distance from about 2.4 to 4.6 statute miles (3.9 to 7.4 (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle —Dave Schuler
        (...) I think I read or saw somewhere that this same tactic was used in WWII (Battle of Midway, maybe?). It's cool (insofar as war is cool) that such venerable methods still see use in more modern times. Dave! (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
       
            Re: John E. Doolittle —Lance Scott
         (...) He (...) The tactic does still hold with turret mounted guns, the enemy can still only bear a fraction of his firepower, while you can use all of yours. Missiles on the other hand negate that advantage entirely. (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
        
             Re: John E. Doolittle —Dave Schuler
         (...) Heh. Yeah, I guess it's a lot different when you can fire more-or-less from all directions... Dave! (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
        
             Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
         Dave Schuler wrote in message ... (...) only (...) from (...) Ok, sounds good. So what's the late eighteenth/early nineteenth century equivalent of a missile system - a carronade? ;-) Richard Still baldly going... Check out Port Block at (URL) the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
        
             Re: John E. Doolittle —Tony Priestman
         On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Richard Parsons (<Fp2xL2.D31@lugnet.com>) wrote at 04:23:36 (...) I don't think so - carronades were only good a short range. You might be able to put a very large cannon on a very small, fast ship, but even so, you'd probably (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
        
             Re: John E. Doolittle —Bruce Schlickbernd
          In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes: (major snippage) (...) Hmmmmmmm. Wood. Hmmm...mmm. Canvas. So which ship are you planning to sink? The target or your own? :-) Bruce (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
         
              Re: John E. Doolittle —Tony Priestman
          On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Bruce Schlickbernd (<Fp3tv1.Lx5@lugnet.com>) wrote at 16:01:49 (...) Yes, I had the same thoughts, but you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs :-) I can see the added risk making for a few comic situations! I can't find (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
         
              Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
          Tony Priestman and Bruce Schlickbernd wrote about the relspective meruts of rockets as an offensive weapon aboard late 17th and early 18th century warships. Ok ok ok. How about a barge-like monitor? No sails or rigging to set afire while arguing (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
         
              Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
           Richard Parsons wrote in message ... (...) of (...) 'relspective meruts'? - why do I pay this spellchecker anyway? Come here little spellchecker. Look at this. 'respective merits', see? Get it? Why is this so hard? Now go and write "I will always (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Lance Scott
           Got an Idear for ya, Matey! Set during the illustrious career of the indomitable J.E. Doolittle, Capt., etc., etc. Doolittle hears rumours of another Brikish Museum expedition to "gather native artifacts for preservation by the infinitely more (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Tony Priestman
           On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Lance Scott (<Fp7GBq.AzK@lugnet.com>) wrote at 14:59:50 (...) <*massive* snip> (...) groan! (...) With stuff as good as that, you should be settin' up with a nice little ship of yer own! :-) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Lance Scott
            (...) I'll be needin' some Pirate set's then. Me own DarkAge lasted through Pirates, more's the pity. Certainly have considered it, might be able to cobble somethin' together with other bits an' pieces, but I might have to fight off a suit from a (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
           Tony Priestman wrote (...) Capt., (...) Ditto! I love it! Why is there no website, Lance Scott commanding? I mean, I'm happy to host the story, and eventually put pics to it, and it fits in perfectly (top marks) but but but, what other ideas might (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Lance Scott
           (...) through a very echo-ey place here) Capt. Doolittle needs a Nemesis. A thorn in his side. How about the Captian that Waite hires to un-do Dolittle? Meet Captain Otto von Wurstluk. (fanfare and appropriately martial music comes up). Captain (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Lance Scott
           SNIP (...) comes (...) Awfully sorry about that, it seems he already has several people in a not-happy mood at him. That's what I get for not re-reading the back-story. Perhaps Capt. Otto vW can be the "worst" sort of merchantman Doolittle takes on. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
         
              Re: John E. Doolittle —Tony Priestman
           On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Richard Parsons (<Fp4ws7.16n@lugnet.com>) wrote at 06:03:01 (...) But what about the poor souls you'd have to leave on it to fire the ordnance? They'd almost certainly be captured. (...) This is more like it. I can see a tactic (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
         
              Re: John E. Doolittle —Bruce Schlickbernd
          (...) Hmmm, well, that would seem to work. Don't quite know why it wasn't tried (or maybe it has been, but I haven't run across it yet). Too slow to aim, especially when the target is moving? I think it would work best as a surprise weapon under (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
         
              Re: John E. Doolittle —Tony Priestman
           On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Bruce Schlickbernd (<Fp7nEI.50G@lugnet.com>) wrote at 17:32:42 (...) Arr! And throw lubbers to the sharks! (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Bruce Schlickbernd
           (...) Ye be making a mistake. Lubbers be good fer sumting 'board ship. We need sumone ta be pulling on the lines and hawsers, an' reefin' the sails. Timmies we throw to the sharks. It not be wise ta get me a'goin' on the subject o' Timmies again... (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
         
              Re: John E. Doolittle —Lindsay Frederick Braun
            (...) It was tried--in 1862. That was part of the theory behind the Confederate ram Virginia (formerly the Federal frigate USS Merrimack). It just sort of sailed in and among the blockade force at Hampton Roads, and caused mayhem. However, ships (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Bruce Schlickbernd
           In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes: (with various others, but the attribs get confusing) (...) could (...) (or (...) in (...) ships (...) impossible (...) I (...) Are you refering to congreaves (which is what this is primarily about) (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Lindsay Frederick Braun
             (...) No, I'm referring to barge-like platforms. (...) best, Lindsay (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
          
               Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
           Bruce Schlickbernd wrote (...) about (...) Richard Still baldly going... Check out Port Block at (URL) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
         
              Re: John E. Doolittle —Steve Campbell
          (...) There's a book by David Drake called Surface Action. It's sci-fi about a mostly water world and the conflicts that arise on it. During the climactic naval battle the "good" guys took one of their monitors and disguised it as a floating wreck. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
        
             Re: John E. Doolittle —Lindsay Frederick Braun
          (...) Yeah, but if you need *guidance*, you need the only sort of guidance system available in the age of sail: Well-liquored sailin' wretches and Greek Fire. I'm thinking of the destruction of the USS Philadelphia at Tripoli by a small party after (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
       
            Re: John E. Doolittle —Bruce Schlickbernd
         (...) He (...) The fleets never saw each other at the Battle of Midway (aircraft carrier warfare). The Battle of Jutland in WWI would be more appropriate. The entire british fleet crossed the T on the german fleet. The germans used their "battle (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
        
             Re: John E. Doolittle —Dave Schuler
          (...) Yeah--I guess aircraft carriers don't shoot at each other that much... (...) Maybe that's the battle I read/heard about. Thanks for the info! Dave! (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
        
             Re: John E. Doolittle —Lindsay Frederick Braun
          (...) That last is the classic example of how steam changed the tactical lexicon. The Royal Navy hadn't even considered the possibility that this could be done, because it couldn't be done under sail in anything approaching an orderly manner. The (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
        
             Re: John E. Doolittle —Jeffrey Watts
         (...) Von Manstein's book, _Lost Victories_ came to the same conclusion. Von Manstein advocated a strategic retreat along the Stalingrad front for the winter, letting the Russians deal with reclaiming the land, then crushing them in the spring when (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
       
            Re: John E. Doolittle —Lindsay Frederick Braun
         (...) Ack, no. The only side with battleships at Midway was Japanese, and they never took any part of the battle (they were part of the "invasion force"). It was a purely carrier-driven action (with bits of submarineness about). You may be thinking (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
       
            Re: John E. Doolittle —Dave Schuler
        (...) Thanks for the clarification! Elsewhere Bruce was able to de-fog my mind on the subject, as well. I've so much to learn! (...) Hmm. I wish I could remember where I first heard about this, because my recollection seems to resemble the battle (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.pirates)
      
           Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
       Lance Scott wrote in message ... (...) measurement. (...) and (...) locate. Right. Cables it is. (...) Sympathies. Look sharp though, there still be a few treasures to be found. (...) enemy. (...) He (...) volley. (...) each (...) the (...) Mmmm. In (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) I bow to the other post on the chain. A league is variable, but usually three miles. A fathom is six feet. It should be noted a nautical mile is 6000 feet, not 5280. Bruce (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —Dave Schuler
      (...) Since my knowledge of maritime issues extends only far enough to know that a whale is not a fish, I ask the following question: How many whats are in a "knot?" Is it shorthand for "nautical mile?" Is it a standard value, or is it a more (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —James Powell
       (...) three (...) Ah... A Knot is 12 feet, or a Nautical Mile. Drop a float overboard, and count how many Knots go through your hands in (forget how many seconds). This tells you how fast you are moving relative to the water, in Nautical Miles per (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —Adam Hoekwater
       (...) three (...) Webster's Dictionary says: <quote> In nautical usage knot is a unit of speed, not of distance, and has a built-in meaning of “per hour.” Therefore, a ship would strictly be said to travel at ten knots (not ten knots per hour). (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —Lance Scott
      (...) three (...) Here ya go 7 a : a division of the log's line serving to measure a ship's speed b (1) : one nautical mile per hour (2) : one nautical mile -- not used technically They would measure the ship's speed by dropping a piece of wood (the (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
     
          Re: John E. Doolittle —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) a (...) a (...) The term was, "heaving the log". Bruce (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
     Bruce Schlickbernd wrote in message ... (...) boat. I (...) notice (...) Really? So I turn the wheel left to steer right. I didn't know that. I though only airplanes were that cock-eyed. And despite having taken the wheel of HMS Bounty (the one they (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) I grew up with small sailboats that only had a tiller, where you push the tiller one way to go the other. But I've specifcally read somewhere that "hard a'starboard" is the command for the wheel and the ship very specifcally goes the other (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: John E. Doolittle —Richard Parsons
      Bruce Schlickbernd wrote (...) How about if the helmsman, instead of 'slammed the wheel hard a'starboard', 'pushed the wheel hard over, and the Aurora heaved sharply to starboard'.? (...) and (...) Wasn't lady Washington the Enterprise of Trek 7? (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: "Hard a starboard" (was John E. Doolittle) —Frank Filz
     OK, now that I've recovered, but lost all the knowledge of which messages I had read... (I've been thinking of writing my own customized newsreader, OEs little crashes are making me seriously consider it...) Bruce Schlickbernd wrote in message ... (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
    
         Re: "Hard a starboard" (was John E. Doolittle) —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Well done. Thanks for the excellent refernce. Yes, the America's Cup boats turn in the direction of the wheel. I learned to sail before I could drive, so the opposite direction tiller thing never bugged me. Bruce (25 years ago, 30-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
   
        Re: A new pirate ship. —Paul Davidson
   "the top London commercial firm Waite, Fidget and Doolittle" hahaha, great stuff. -- Paul Davidson Richard Parsons <rparsons@hinet.net.au> wrote in message news:FnwvCu.Hx7@lugnet.com... (...) a (...) high (...) used (...) still (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.pirates)
 

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