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Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:19:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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For the story of Jesus, in effect, we have the Gospel of Dave! but we lack
the Gospels of Todd, Tim, and Jake. Without those independent sources for
confirmation, then it is impossible for me to conclude that the Gospels are
accurate, because so much of what is contained in them directly contradicts
modern understanding of reality. And, because I can’t accept the validity
of the Gospels, I’m left with no independent evidence about Jesus at all, so
I have no basis for assessing people’s behavior in comparison to him!
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Ummmmmm, where are you going with this? You ironically note that quoting
yourself as a source is dubious by itself, but with Todd, Tim, and Jake
providing corroborating evidence, you are at least more credible. But in the
next breath you mention the gospels (you even gave yourself a clue you should
have caught by using a plural) as if they are a single source.
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Since they cannot be verified as independent sources and can instead be shown to
borrow heavily from one another (in a manner quite similar to the process of
editorial revisions of a single work), they cannot, to my satisfaction, be
regarded as anything other than a single source (at least in terms of “proving”
a historical account of Jesus).
And where the heck would I get a clue to give to myself in the first place?!?
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The Gospel of
Matthew has less crediblity, but what about John, Mark and Luke (gosh, the
same number as in your example)? I can understand citing the differences in
those various gospels, but I’m confused by your example that basically proves
the exact opposite of your conclusion. And yes, The Gospels of Dave!, Tim,
Todd, and Jake are all fom the wHolly single source of Lugnet
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Well, that’s not quite how I meant it. Granted, to the world outside of LUGNET,
the various contributors to LUGNET are all subsumed into LUGNET as a source.
But within the universe of LUGNET, (and in my example, at least) Dave, Todd,
Tim, and Jake are sufficiently separate entities to qualify as different
sources.
Additionally, although Todd’s, Jake’s, and Tim’s sudden conversion to
MEGABLOKS-fandom would indeed be miraculous, it strikes me that the whole
rising-from-the-dead thing is even miraculouser and would, accordingly, require
even more definitively independent corroboration.
Dave!
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| (...) I didn't say that I thought they were right, or wrong, just that I was amazed at your example. (...) Freudian equivalent of a banana peel? (...) So, within the universe of the Bible, Luke, Matthew, John, and Mark are sufficiently separate (...) (20 years ago, 12-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Ummmmmm, where are you going with this? You ironically note that quoting yourself as a source is dubious by itself, but with Todd, Tim, and Jake providing corroborating evidence, you are at least more credible. But in the next breath you (...) (20 years ago, 12-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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