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Re: Terrorists hate freedom (was Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles)
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Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:52:31 GMT
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What you are failing to take into account is that Evil Leaders do not
represent their countries, they oppress them. Iraq is a good country
with good people; we always believed that. The problem was their leader.
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SH only became a “problem” after he invaded Q8... i.e. he was America’s friend
when he perpetrated many of his worst crimes.
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North Korea is a hell-hole of oppression because of KIJ. This is why
Democracy is so important-- it gives the power to the people!
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But its an alternative process to armed conflict. And the quality of this
process, its inclusivity, transparency and equity is what guarantees a stand
down of hostility by terrorists. It is the absence of a perception of a
viable alternative that drives violent insurrection.
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I’m sorry Richard, but you are simply wrong. You cannot negotiate with
terrorists.
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Tell that to the ANC & IRA. BTW: which terrorist groups have been beaten with
force?
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The problem is
that there are people in this world who don’t value rational thought.
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Indeed!
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Anyone who suggests that negotiating with terrorists will achieve peace has
simply failed to learn the lessons of other conflicts in other places in
other times
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You mean like in south affica and NI?
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When it comes to the
test, against all odds, it is more likely that body that overpowers the
lash. Terrorism can be reduced in this way, sure, but not vanquished, and it
can get a lot worse, and any improvement comes at what cost to the cherished
freedoms of the community?
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So what are you suggesting???? Not oppose terrorism because you fear that you
might make it worse??? Give in to terrorism? I’m sorry, but the only
solution is to fight it until those who desire change are willing to go about
it in a civil manner.
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Don’t be a fool. Remember countries like Israel & South Africa owe a lot to
terrorism. Although I don’t condone violence, sometimes terrorists have a point!
OBL does not like the House of Saud; I think he has a point. Hammas claim Israel
is an oppressive regime; they have a point. It is their actions that are wrong;
not some of their motives!
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So put away your tribal colours and big guns and crotch-first gait, and
start thinking about what could possibly motivate you to behave like the
people you call terrorists, to sacrifice your life in the service of
something that will likely not benefit you at all.
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That’s the point!!!! There is NOTHING that would ever motivate me to
deliberately and savagely kill INNOCENT CHILDREN! These people are beyond
rational thinking.
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You condone the killing of children in Iraq. If “shock and awe” was not
terrorism, what was it?
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You do not understand the problem of Islamo-terrorism I am afraid. The
simple truth is that it has nothing to do with economics. This is about
religious intolerance; you are a target because you are not one of them,
not because you oppress them in some way.
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Can you justify that?
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The litany ‘there is simply no excuse for terrorism’ echoes loud from those
who stand to gain the most from the preservation of the status quo.
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So what? It doesn’t negate the Truth of the statement.
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It fails to
realise that this is no answer for those who are abjectly prevented from
sharing in the bounty of the status quo.
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Again, you fail to comprehend the situation.
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Terrorism is a perfectly logical and
inevitable result of a resilient, clever, passionate and aspiring humanity
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Serioulsy, this is one of the most offensive things I have ever seen
printed! God, I hope you reconsider and retract what you just wrote.
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Perhaps John meant it as a light-hearted poke.
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Absolutely not! I stand by that statement. Perhaps you’d like to explain
how the killing of innocent people is an example of “freedom loving”
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Perhaps you can justify why Bush is funding the murder of civilians in
Uzbekistan & Israel. Is that “freedom loving”?
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I seem to read similar things
said in all seriousness, and I feel the blood drain from my face in fear.
Terrorism is a scary thing, but the state that fails to recognise the
humanity of everyone, and institutionalises the imbalances and social
injustices that creates the need for terrorism, is only scarier.
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Evil is evil Richard. Perpetrating evil to combat evil results in evil--
there is no difference.
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Scott A
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