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Re: What about the first?
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Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:46:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
Why bring Islam?

Because these extremists are *using* Islam to justify their evil actions.  The
Muslim world should be *far* more vocal in their distancing of themselves from
radicalism.  I don't hear it though.

Problem is, you're not going to. Not saying there aren't lots of repressive
regimes in the non Muslim world, mind you, but there sure aren't very many
NON repressive ones in the Muslim (and particularly, the Arab) world.
Dissent is carefully controlled and carefully suppressed. Even in ally
states like Egypt and Turkey (states that I note, we apparently have to buy
allegiance from(1))

1 - Turkey apparently wants more than the 36B(? I forget the amount but it's
in the Billions) USD we offered them in grants and loans! I say offer them
nothing except reimbursement for direct costs, if that. We're the "world's
policeman" but apparently instead of *getting* paid, we have to pay the rest
of the world for the privilege of doing their laundry for them. Fah.



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  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Hard to argue with that. Yet I call you attention to the fact that the Algerian dicatorship is on the anti-islamist side, making it a whole more complicated matter. (...) If you were getting paid, wouldn't it be "tribute" to the ruling empire? (...) (21 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Buying allegiance is not restricted to the "Muslim world". Right now I expect Bush is horse-trading all over. His case is that strong. (...) Part of the problem is that the USA did not pay what it said it would last time around. Bush should (...) (21 years ago, 20-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) I'll make my point below. (...) I don't watch CNN-- heck, I don't watch network news either because as you correctly point out, they are agenda-driven. (...) I agree, and here is my point. *Sensible*, rational Arabs need to SPEAK OUT against (...) (21 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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