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Re: What about the first?
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Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:46:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > > It's not that I have a problem with religious fanatics, it's what those
> > > fanatics *do*. I would venture that 90% of the world's terrorism is
> > > perpetrated by Muslim fanatics.
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> >
> > I'd "venture" 99% of the terrorism the UK has suffered has been perpetrated
> > people who'd call themselves "Christians".
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> The difference is that 99.5% of *Christians* would condemn their actions. How
> many in the Arab world condemn Extremist Muslims' actions? The silence is
> deafening.
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> > However, Christianity is not what
> > drives them. ? it?s greed, nationalism and to a lesser extent some form of
> > political ideology.
>
> So why bring Christianity into the discussion in the first place?
> >
> > Likewise, was the Oklahoma bombing perpetrated by a Christian, or a "loony" >who
> > happened to be a Christian? Furthermore, I'd be the last person to link
> > Israeli terrorism to the Jewish faith, [How many have died in the Middle East
> > due to
> > the interpretation of religious texts by right-wing extremists/nationalists in
> > the Christian and Jewish faiths?] but is Zionism not a form of religious
> > fundamentalism?
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> Again, you analogy is flawed. The overwhelming majority of Christians and Jews
> *CONDEMN* terrorist acts perpetrated in the name of their respective
> religions. This is not the case in the Islamic world.
> >
> > All this does not mean that nationalists [etc] do not use religion as a
> > recruiting tool. Nor does it mean that religion is not a common factor which
> > links some of the world?s ?victims?. Do you think the USA was attacked in 2001
> > because it is not a Muslim state, or because of perceptions regarding the US
> > foreign policy?
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> If you believe that the US foreign policy is the cause of the attack on 9-11,
> then how would you explain the countless acts of terror of Islamic
> Fundamentalists around the world? The fact is that they are simply intolerant
> of *anyone* who does not view the world as they do. The reason for their
> terrorism is their hatred and intolerance.
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> JOHN
Oh my goodness--I actually agree with John! Eep! (1)
Dave K
(1) all except the attack on 9-11. Whereas I don't think that American
foreign policy is the *only* reason for 9-11, the slip-shod American foreign
policy has negatively impacted folks outside the US borders in many ways and
contribute to the general animosity towards America.
That said, I'd say that even if America had a coherent foreign policy, that
a situation like 9-11 may have happened because extremists are just
that-extreme, and if you don't follow their POV (point of view) to the
letter, then you're the 'them' in 'us against them'.
To be said a few prominent Islamic folks have voiced their outrage against
the attacks--I remember that in the papers and in the news after 9-11.
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| (...) The difference is that 99.5% of *Christians* would condemn their actions. How many in the Arab world condemn Extremist Muslims' actions? The silence is deafening. (...) So why bring Christianity into the discussion in the first place? (...) (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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