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Re: What about the first?
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Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:24:39 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
A straw man argument is setting up an easy but inaccurately depicted target
that you can knock down.  "America is wasting the oil it gets from Saddam,
so it must go to war with him."  If it was getting it already, why would it
need to go to war?  Is the oil really going to America?  No.

Even though I can easily agree with you on that (oil for US consumption
which is not from the GoM or Alaska comes primarily either from Venezuela or
West African countries), I think I must point out one does not need to *use*
the oil to benefit from it. We both know that the majority of the companies
who exploit the oil in the Arabian Region are american-controlled, and that
they generate a lot of profit from the drilling activity...
So yes, you are right in what you said *as you said it*. Just please don't
claim in the future that the oil from the Persian Gulf does not benefit the
US in any way - you haven't *said it*, but it can be implied from your
passionate rufuse of iraqui oil consumption by the US. Or am I 100% wrong? :-)


Pedro



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(...) Wrong in the sense that I never said that U.S. companies do not benefit from Middle Eastern oil in any way. Dave is saying we want their oil because we are sucking up so much Middle Eastern oil (and specifically Iraqi oil) with our SUVs. My (...) (21 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) "I take it then, that Canadians aren't buying SUVs?" If you are going to castigate Americans for something that Canadians are doing (wasting oil through self-indulgence), you aren't going to garner a lot of respect for whatever point you are (...) (21 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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