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Re: What about the first?
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Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:46:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pedro Silva writes:

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The question now is: "what comes after Saddam?"
If he is kicked out, it is more than likely to be another military dictator.
If he abdicates, it's the same. So far, no gains for the people.
If war goes ahead, and he loses, two options are possible: military
government by the US, in which case little would change in the relation of
the commonfolk with the government; or a puppet government (1), which would
never be able to grant popular support even if it were truly democratic!
When we know what is prepared to the "after-war", it will probably be easier
to accept it. It will be so even for the iraquis, if they know they can face
more than a rhetoric democracy after the bloody conflict...


Pedro

(1) - even if it weren't one, it would always have that stigma

Now this is a serious thought--

Is the best solution to have the American Flag flying over the streets in
Bagdad?  In Israel?  Have the U.S. take over these countries and say, "Well,
now you're part of the U.S."?

I mean, Is this a viable solution?  We could then send aid, education, and
just have the residents live in a democratic society?

It may be expansionist but would it solve the problems?--'The United States
of the World'?

I dunno, I'm getting sick and tired of people being repressed, dieing and
not having the 'freedom' to live in peace.

Dave K



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(...) Every single foreign power that has taken over the Middle Eastern countries has left without glory... ever since the Assyrians at least, ending in the British so far. So no, I don't think the US should do that. What would anyone gain? The (...) (21 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) You can turn that the other way around: even Saddam is clever enough to know he cannot rely in such a lunatic as OBL. Saddam has managed to keep power for so long due to a careful choice of allies; he is well aware OBL cannot be controlled! (...) (21 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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