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  Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
 
(...) While I agree in principle with what you are saying I don't actually see you debating the 'smear' in the article at all. You have repeatedly stated that it is a smear and you have provided a transcript and you have (debatebly incorrectly) (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
 
(...) The whole "race issue" is a throwaway. I think what statistic Bennnett is picking up on is that the crime rate is disproportionately greater among black people (which is fact). So if you hypothetically aborted all black babies, then yeah, (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
 
(...) It's going to be difficult to get a libel charge to stick, even were he imprudent emough to try, since those were in fact the words he said, albeit out of context. In this day and age, with the media dog pack as bite happy as it is, (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
 
(...) Freakonomics puts forth the idea that most crime is caused by the poverty-stricken segment of society (excluding massive corporate fraud, which is pervasive and carried out by the wealthiest segment) and further postulates that most of the (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
 
(...) Am I correct in seeing another fallacy here, not necessarily one on Bennett's behalf, but more of one in general? That being that it is instead economics that drives or motivates crime, not race as Freakonomics seems to put forth and that then (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
 
(...) Here's (URL) the audio> And the transcript: CALLER: I noticed the national media, you know, they talk a lot about the loss of revenue, or the inability of the government to fund Social Security, and I was curious, and I've read articles in (...) (19 years ago, 4-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
 
(...) Apart from the slightly sensationalistic title I don't see how this article is a smear at all. It is quite factual and clearly states that he qualified his statement. If you disagree with his anti-choice politics not being spelt out in the (...) (19 years ago, 3-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
 
(...) Well, let's be fair. Bennett's comments were so hideously ill-considered that only the most far-right of media outlets have come out in support of him. There's a lot of "what he really meant was" going on post hoc, but the bottom line is what (...) (19 years ago, 3-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  The Guardian unworthy of toilet paper?
 
(URL) Case closed> Nevermind that Bennett is pro-life. What a smear. And even the Bush administration runs for cover from political hack fallout. Brutal. JOHN (19 years ago, 3-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Samson and Delilah
 
I'll reply to Felix here just so it goes into ot-debate instead of .build. (...) First of all, thanks. I love the challenge of coming up a new look for each of the many and various peoples mentioned in the Bible. And it's really a tribute to the (...) (19 years ago, 29-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Samson and Delilah
 
Tim and Felix, Can you please move such non-Lego discussions out of the .build group? Thanks, Clark (19 years ago, 29-Sep-05, to lugnet.build.ancient, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Green Classic Spacemen...
 
(...) No. Its just dumb. I think in grade school kids would say if you wore green you were gay. This is about as mature. (19 years ago, 29-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Samson and Delilah
 
(...) Cool, thanks for those links. I hadn't seen those. (...) Oh my. LEGO tape. What wouldn't be possible if I allowed myself to use that! Must resist the evil urge! :) -Brendan (FUT set back to .ancient) (19 years ago, 29-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Samson and Delilah
 
(...) Good point, and I agree with your solution. (...) On the topic of customization of that hairpiece, this reminds me of Pat Morgan's customized (URL) Saxon>. Bill Vollbrecht did something very similar with his (URL) Willy Wonka>. (...) Go to (...) (19 years ago, 28-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Say Whaa????
 
(...) Well, it's hard to assess the quality of the study based on this article, which implies that the study finds a causative link between religion and social ills. However, it seems that the study may only cite a correlation between the two, which (...) (19 years ago, 28-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Say Whaa????
 
(...) There is more to being a Christian than saying "I’m a Christian"... look no further than that lying-murdering-cowa...Christian” Bush Jr to see what I mean. Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 28-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Say Whaa????
 
(...) I agree with you that this study is complete BS. He has found a correlation between the USA having bad social problems and the USA having lots of religious people. That's not exactly breaking news. To then link the two is preposterous at best. (...) (19 years ago, 27-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Say Whaa????
 
(URL) My initial reaction: this is the biggest pile of horses hit I've ever heard! But have at it. I'm going off to see if I can find the study somewhere and find out where this complete idiot went wrong... JOHN (19 years ago, 27-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) Agreed, yes- sorry if I misread what you said. I don't recall seeing where Eric brought up that point, but no matter. Again, I don't really care what Eric has done to other folks out of the current context. It has nothing to do with Space, and (...) (19 years ago, 26-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Eric's mouth problem (was Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07)
 
(...) I agree. To all: Please don't swear or include them in quotes. thanks. Also, try to keep casual conversation out of the administrative area. -Suz (19 years ago, 25-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Eric's mouth problem (was Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07)
 
(...) SNIP Nice going you guys! only 6 more before the thread gets suppressed! Keep at it!!! Legoswami (19 years ago, 25-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) Tim, thank you for your honesty. Then I too am sorry. I was p**ssed as well. I'll take your advice. Though I generally try to already. I don't want to chase people away, but I will confront those who have ill will towards me. Either way, I am (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) Hi Eric, I'm sorry for the insulting tone in the parent email. You p**ssed me off and I was a lot ruder than I should have been. I would suggest that both you and I need to be less rude to other people. Either way, I am sorry for being nasty. (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Man, feeling quite proud of himself, then went on to prove that black is white and got himself killed at the next zebra crossing... -HHGTTG--the next bit. You can read volumes into this, but basically, even though I know that DA was a 'devout (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) Eric, if you post to a public forum, it is viewed by the public who may wish to comment on your public post. As an aid I have included a link to the wikipedia article explaining what public means. (URL) If you wish instead to address your (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) It was Eric who brought up this point about number of responses, I merely pointed out that by his argument Bonktron was quite valid too, contrary to his previous posts. I take it then that you agree with me that it is not a good measure of (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) In the same manner as are you, Dave! :-) But I have faith in you, Dave! For I believe that you embrace the sentiment of Socrates' statement (about arguments, and Truth): "For I would give the wisdom of Daedalus, and the wealth of Tantalus, to (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Having done just that, I have a few observations: First, some of Socrate's initial arguments would have to be reworked assuming a single God. But I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem for Plato;-) Overall, this discussion simply reiterates to me (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Moonbase Module - Mech Bay 07
 
(...) And flying swastikas are doing well, as are just about any lame topic that is widely and incorrectly cross-posted. A post about a dying MOC is a lot more interesting to me than the bulk of the posts that I've seen in the last month in .space. (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Heh. Not as well as I'd like, to be honest. My knowledge of modern history is embarrassingly feeble, and I have no ear for modern poetry, either. Most of the meaty entries on my "stuff I've read" list came about in college, though I still like (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) Just how well read are you, Dave!?? Wonderin'... Dave K (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) (URL) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Good question. Additionally, it must be stated that if our notion of "good" emanates from some entity, then we have no means of objectively assessing that entity's "goodness" or "evilness." (...) This would be a good time for us all to review (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) God's love, what a joke. Send all the sinners to Hell, but love them. Riiiight. (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Right back atcha - WHY does it have to eminate from a Superior Being? What is so hard to understand about the fact that Doing Good is Good, regardless of your "reward" (which, in your case, is Brownie Points To Avoid Damnation)? Good is not (...) (19 years ago, 21-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) To reply to the original before I wade through all the other replies, the answer would be vaguely the same in my experience. Many atheists and those of a rather casual nature about religion contribute through standing organizations, many of (...) (19 years ago, 20-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Hey, thanks for opening up that can o' worms.... Actually, the offending emoticon in that case was the dreaded "winky"-- a much more complicated and enigmatic tool. JOHN (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: New Ship: Harlequin
 
(...) Pointy ship = vulgar reference? Sorry, I'm not buying. (...) The original model's gallery on brickshelf uses bonktron with a "b". The header on the message to which I replied uses Pete with a "P". Apostrophes are not quote marks. Junk like (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) ! 
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Not always accepted: (URL) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, Christians
 
(...) "In 1651 the Baptist Obadiah Holmes was given 30 stripes with a three-corded whip after he violated the law and took forbidden communion with another Baptist in Lynn, Massachusetts. " Yikes, I grew up in that town. -Evil Wayne (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Uh, no, Scott, that would be a "joke" (hence, the "smiley", an accepted indication that one is simply kidding). (...) Relax. Sheesh. Ideas are ideas. Some are simply better than others. JOHN (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Hmm, is this an insult? In American-English, is being a "lefty" worse than being one of those malevolent "liberals" that everyone bemoans? Scott A (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) And I completely agree with your disagreement. Writing always is never, ever, ever a good idea. I'll change the "always" to "almost always" and then I'll be fine ;). Tim (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) That's why I coined this stunningly witty phrase: preaching to the choir, even if the preacher isn't part of the congregation. Nyuk nyuk nyuk. (...) No. All arguments by non-believers are inherently perfect and sumptuously articulated. (...) (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) I absolutely disagree. Unitarian Universalism (which is not all atheists) is generally promotes the idea that there is not an external reward for good deeds. Frank (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Hey Tim- I knew this would come up:-) Actually, doing good for religious people is more of a response rather than an attempt to curry favor. Christian doctrine is that we are saved by grace alone; God's love is unconditional. One cannot earn (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
--SNIP-- (...) I would think that doing good for religious people is more about personal gain than for atheists. Theists always believe that their good deeds will go rewarded by God or Karma or some other external system whereas atheists care only (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) I'm an atheist, and I tend to agree with that opinion, just not as strongly, ie life is about a *mixture* of MEMEME and caring for others. But if your opinion is your best argument, then I don't think you have much of an argument - the article (...) (19 years ago, 19-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heads up, Christians
 
(...) First off, I'd say Moyers is over-reacting a bit. Any Christian who would want to set up any type of Christian theocracy is just as much a fringie as MM is to the Left. Both are to be eschewed IMO. It is not my desire to see the US turned into (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) I don't feel obligated. However, if I want the best world for me and my children and my children's children, then helping others build a future for themselves is the best bet. It is a version of the "self-serving" argument. My family (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Hey, Lenny- Do you support them because you feel an obligation towards your fellow man? And if so, from where does that sense eminate? JOHN (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) That's because I'm not, Scott. I am not really a loyal reader of any particular publication, but seek interesting ideas and perspectives from many places, even "lefty" ones:-) JOHN (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Thanks for the response, Dave! Okay, so you'd tend to disagree with his supposition:-) What interested me about the piece is the fact that the author claims to be an atheist, so the typical "preaching to the choir" accusation doesn't quite fit (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Heads up, Christians
 
Hey John, I was recently passed an article talking about conservative religion in America, and I'd like your impressions. (URL) > -Lenny (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) -snip- (...) I agree with Dave completely. Another key weakness of his opinion is that he ignores whether atheists could actively support religious charities for non-religious purposes. Although I am an agnostic, I regularly donate to Heifer (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
Hi John I’d never have figured you were a fellow Guardian reader. Scott (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Heads up, atheists
 
(...) Well, it's an opinion piece, so we can only dispute the opinion as given. I gather that Hattersly considers himself a nonbeliever, but his beliefs are irrelevant to the validity of his argument, of course. Regardless, here are a few notes: (...) (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Heads up, atheists
 
Here's an article to which I am interested in your reaction: (URL) JOHN (19 years ago, 18-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: LEGO moving production; will we keep buying?
 
(...) This seems like something of an overreaction to me. If Lego continues to have its humanitarian commitments in place then they will only source from reputable manufacturers within China anyway. If you're worried about them propping up an 'evil' (...) (19 years ago, 13-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO moving production; will we keep buying?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dustin Jones wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Here's my humble POV-- We can talk of rights of workers and such, and we can discuss environmental impacts and how bad 'those countries' are for everyone... My problem is that we, (...) (19 years ago, 13-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  LEGO moving production; will we keep buying?
 
One of the main reasons I have always been enamored with LEGO bricks is that they are European. I've always been fascinated with being able to build with bricks crafted in Denmark and Switzerland. I can handle production moving to the Czech (...) (19 years ago, 13-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question about job security
 
(...) Either everyone has figured out that Dubya is an idiot by now, or they refuse to admit it out of party....loyalty. :-) -->Bruce<-- (19 years ago, 9-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: John Stossel, friend of the wealthy
 
What a blithering idiot. If the gougers didn't buy all of X up, then it would still be available at normal market price... (...) (19 years ago, 9-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Faction: The Bonktrons are coming.
 
(...) Space is going stronger than ever (URL) elsewhere>... ~Kevoh (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: New Faction: The Bonktrons are coming.
 
(...) Funny how the "LUGNET is dead" pronouncements always seem to come from people associated with other (moderated) forums. It's really too bad that you can't be an admin here and (URL) censor posts>, buy why don't you get over it already? Marc (...) (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  John Stossel, friend of the wealthy
 
I've called (URL) John Stossel> a jerk in this forum previously, but this time I mean it. Jerk. (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: New Faction: The Bonktrons are coming.
 
At the risk of being told I am quoting out of context, I will leave all of your text here. (...) "..held your nose..." you sir, (up until recently) were an active member of JLUG. you, YOURSELF have said things on JLUG that have explained what you (...) (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Okay, maybe not a real MOC, but close enough
 
(...) Ah, but if he were English, he would have to ask his mum for permission to marry... us Scots are a little more liberal in that respect. If he were English, he'd also not want me to say this: (URL) NI 1 :Eng(er)land 0>... so I won't! Scott A (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Question about job security
 
Hmm. It sounds like he needs to setup and chair a committee to investigate his own ineptitude. I note that he is now accepting aid from those nitwits at the UN... Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 8-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Question about job security
 
Why hasn't Dubya fired Michael Brown? Why hasn't Dubya fired Michael Chertoff? While he's been President, has Dubya ever fired anyone? While he's been President, has Dubya ever fired anyone for anything other than a perceived lack of loyalty? (19 years ago, 7-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Okay, maybe not a real MOC, but close enough
 
(...) Actually, as he has said, he is 17. In the UK certainly, that would make him not a minor (for a lot of things anyway*, confusing world that it is :) ) Tim *Allowed to get married and serve in the army, but not to buy alcohol or vote (19 years ago, 7-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Okay, maybe not a real MOC, but close enough
 
(...) I had a great-uncle who was a 15 year-old miner before The Great Depression, if that helps. At least, I hear that he was great. Dave! (19 years ago, 7-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Okay, maybe not a real MOC, but close enough
 
(...) If he lived a country where the age of majority was 15, would you still consider him a minor? (I don't think it is 15 in India BTW) Tim (19 years ago, 7-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) Just ignore him, he's a Space Nazi(TM). (...) Is that Tormod 'the modder of bricks' or Tormud 'the Tor of earth' (as Lenny stated) ? pete'Torte'.w (the Tor of desserts) (19 years ago, 6-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: The big disconnect regarding NOLA
 
It must be humbling to see your unilateralist president begging for international help. If people were not dead/dying, it would be funny. Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 4-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  The big disconnect regarding NOLA
 
(URL) the government version of what's going on in NOLA, and there's what appears to be the truth. Tangentially, this blog makes fascinating reading: (URL) (19 years ago, 4-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) I wouldn't directly correlate humans and rats, either. Rats turning on each other in bad situations is an 'instinctive defense mechanism' that they can't consiously do anything about. Humans, on the other hand, even though we have 'instinctive (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
My brother in law in Atlanta paid $5 a gallon. I just paid $2.80 in California, which usually leads the nation in artificially manipulated prices. -->Bruce<-- (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) Not for everyone. Those who are wealthy enough not to have to worry about a 60 or 80% increase in the price per gallon aren't going to be affected at all, except perhaps to enjoy a larger profit from their oil stocks. Raising the prices serves (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) I hope that some information I can add here might be helpful. I do have a handfull of contacts in Japan that I converse with regularly via e-mail. And even though I have done a larger number of trades - I can only speculate why they didn't (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) That’s discussed at some length in “Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors” by Ann Druyan and the late Carl Sagan. They stress that one can’t always predict human crisis-response based on the behavior of rats, but real-world examples make one wonder (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) What were those tests done with rats in a cage-- a few rats in a large cage with lots of food and water, no problem many rats in a small cage with hardly any food and water--mass pandemonium We've seriously not evolved that far from the other (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) Hmm. (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) Dear Jake, I am not trying to attack a faceless monster here, I am responding to Lenny's claims that you guys were personally being in some way harrassed/ attacked/ asserted against in my original post. I believe that you love your job enough (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) Well, I wasn’t upset because you said that, I was upset because the ambassadors didn’t do the same. (...) You certainly didn’t offend me by the statement. I thought it was great that applications spanned the globe. And disappointed that it (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) I know it might be nearly impossible to believe, but I'll say it anyway - the group responsible for this program is much much smaller than you might believe. I know that when you talk about a company, any company, it's extremely easy to turn (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.lego, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) Personally, I don't see the problem. I see a (hopefully temporary) product shortage due to an unplanned for natural catastrophe. Google for "katrina colonial pipeline". There was a BusinessWeek article that came out in the past two days that (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) Jake said "The application pool spanned the globe". Maybe "spanned the globe" is now a turn of phrase meaning "spanned europe and north america"? Maybe Jake could share some evidence otherwise? Cheers Richie Dulin (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) I'm not accusing them, I am accusing their employers. Don't accuse me of characterising people when I have said absolutely nothing about anyone. It seems to me you are just using this thread as an excuse to namedrop. The Ambassadors program is (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Ambassadors Cycle 2
 
(...) How many of those 30-40 Million people applied to be LEGO Ambassadors? Knowing the people who've made this selection, having met them in person (Jake, Steve, Jan), I seriously disagree with your characterization of them ignoring such a wide (...) (19 years ago, 2-Sep-05, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
(...) I believe that I tried to point out the relativism of my usage of the word 'severe.' My sister is a Muslim, and my understanding above is directly related to my experience of how she expresses her faith in Islam. We often talk about the (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) Whereas I fundamentally agree with your words, the 'election platform' of the current president was that, if need be, he'd go 'toe to toe' with OPEC to keep gas prices low. As well, many republicans whined bitterly and blamed Bubba when he was (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) regular is $3-3.50 a gallon in the chicago area. it really depends on the distance from downtown chicago but i've seen it as high as 3.69 for regular. thankfully i have a good bicycle. i've been using it alot. the only thing i can say is if (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
Sorry... had to jump in. (...) Just let me point out here that 'severeity' is something relative. I don't see any problem with the 'severeity' that you refer to. It's their religion, and it's up to them how they should practice it, or not practice (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) Hi, Here (France) the price of gasoline is about $6.5 $/gallon (1.40 euros/l) and raising. I have a 45-50 miles (74 km) commute from home to the office (quite the same situation for my wife). To answer to Allister, I have to say the government (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) The government is not responsible for your commuting choices. Low petrol prices are not a right, and they're not likely to get lower no matter how much gets pumped out of the ground. If you're not prepared to pay the market price, your only (...) (19 years ago, 1-Sep-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gas prices in USA
 
(...) You're not alone in that regard, alas. Gas prices in my area have jumped $.32 in the last 32 hours, and I expect another bump overnight. That's hardly an increase of 100%, but it still stinks mightily! Unfortunately, oil supply isn't the (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Gas prices in USA
 
The price of gasoline here in the States has been too [@#$%&*] high all during Bush II's reign, and now (thanks to H. Katrina) they're getting higher! I've heard that Gov. Perdue (GA) has ordered gas stations to close tonight at 4:30pm here in (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO Factory Terms Of Service
 
(...) And I agreed that the statement was valid. It was the wording I had a problem with. (...) Had it been worded like above I would have had no problem with it at all, and would have looked the topic up or asked about it. As it was you said "Is (...) (19 years ago, 31-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  


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