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  Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) Ok, I was making an assumption that we want the maximum possible penalty for murder. It still means that we must treat all the above listed people the same as the person whose intent is unjustified murder. (...) Ah, but to do so, you're making (...) (25 years ago, 19-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) are (...) You're making assumptions. What if the penalty for murder was deportation? Or 5 years of community service? No one says it has to be prison for life. Also, there's no reason why there can't be 'state-mandated'(1) circumstances under (...) (25 years ago, 19-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) Unfortuanately it seems to me that to have a workable society, we have to attempt to judge intent. Without judging intent, either murder is not a crime, and we can't punish anyone for being responsible for someone elses life ending, or there (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) Yes. Neither you nor I are capable of judging motive. We don't know why Fred ran over Sam, or why Dave ran over Paul. The only people who know that are Fred and Dave, respectively. All that we can do is judge the action. Actions are (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
(...) I agree, to a point. I think these words tend to insult people even when they're not intended to. [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING UP] [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING UP] [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING UP] [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING UP] [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) OK, it's as voluntary as anything ever is. I don't feel responsible to make things better than they can be. (...) Well, I don't think anyone is harmed - unless I spend so much that I can't buy groceries. So the net benefit of the transactions (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) OK, I guess I don't know what 'wrong' means in a judgemental sense. I'm not even sure that I'm willing to acknowledge that it means anything. I'll listen if you want to define it though. If someone hurts my loved ones I'm pretty liberal in (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
<snip> (...) actually (...) Just what is wrong with those words? They are only "bad" because we think they are. It's just a self fufilling phrophecy(1) I mean they are very general purpose words, and unless used to intentionally insult someone they (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) I'm not so sure of that. Once you've got the sets that you're (hypothetically) planning on holding for a year, there's nothing anyone who wants to buy the sets earlier than that can do. This redistribution may have been instigated by a private (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) You seem to imply there's a difference between being 'wrong' and being 'unsavoury', but I can't see any difference in principle - perhaps a small difference of degree in that 'unsavoury' implies a smaller amount of wrongness. Also, aren't you (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Hmm. What about selling stock off in advance of the release of bad news? This happened quite recently with Correl Corp... Shortly before they announced lower than expected profits (dropping the stock price), the president sold off 1/3 of his (...) (25 years ago, 15-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) If you're asking me for a legal definition, I'm not sure. but my common sense opinion is that common sense is indeed required. (...) Here I think i am on a bit firmer ground when I say that I think, legally, saying something is one way when (...) (25 years ago, 15-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Well, I sort of meant that if everyone affected by the deal agrees to it, then nothing else matters. I assume you agree that you can waive your rights if you so choose. (...) I know that Libertarians are into the Force 'n' Fraud phrase, and I (...) (25 years ago, 15-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) identified as "Technic Pin 1/2". :p Steve (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
A few nits. Clarifications, really. (...) And as long as it doesn't violate the rights of others. (remember, free goods are not a right, nor is it a right that you must accept custom from anyone) (...) or fraud. But of course I hold fraud to be a (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Cute. I think the difference is that one is voluntary. (...) I guess what you're talking about is whether there is a net benefit. Clearly I'd be benifitting some people - the ones who buy them from me. (...) This must be why I prefer the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) I believe it's this one: (URL) >I have a standing offer on those, as well as on 1x2 tilting top hinges (...) Whoops? I want both halves. It's a tilting-top hinge... I just hate hyphens so I omitted it. so I want the top and bottom halves of (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) That's an interesting one, which you could argue on both sides. Oddly, the service you'd claim to be providing here is as much as anything a redistribution service - from people who want sets now to people who may want the sets next year (...) (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) I'll try to find it, but if you can give me an LDraw part # for this I'll hold any I come across in breaking up sets for you. (...) Hrmmm... any color, but only the top half. Ok. (25 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Discussion (Was: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
John, (...) Pointless, yes, as always, but still there. I'm used to getting crispy every now and then, part of debate, I guess. (...) I don't think it is wrong. If that's the way they want to be, that is their right, unless the government intervenes (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Americans are gonna destroy the Earth!!
 
(...) (URL) wonder: if the collision of two elementary charged particles generates a huge amount of energy within a tiny space, what would happen if someone just happened to be sitting in the collision chamber at the instant of collision? - Would he (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) You'd get in because you had good intentions. But then you'd be given tasks where you could not hurt yourself, because what I actually NEED scads of are the 1.2l pins (technic loose pin on one side, open top stud on the other) I have a (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Drat! I sold all my technic half-pins. Those would have gotten me in for sure. Steve (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
Scott Edward Sanburn wrote: <snippage of some pointless flames [come on, guys]> (...) This is just a random post to something Scott said, but it made me think of why I was a Liberal and why I'm not completely Libertarian. It has to do with stuff. I (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: web surveys
 
(...) This is entirely possible. (...) I've actually seen more badly-written code in C and Java. (1) Programmers who: a. can't write code for other people, and; b. use comments and good readability; shouldn't write code for other people. Just like (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: web surveys
 
(...) I understand your point to be that the GPL is invalid because my OS isn't free...? Simply because the OS isn't free (1) doesn't mean that the GPL forbids using GNU code on it... "The act of running the Program is not restricted...only if its (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: web surveys
 
(...) You are pretty close to the mark. Here's some snippets from what I heard back from the licensing guys at MySQL: Michael Widenius wrote: (...) That last paragraph is pretty interesting -- theyopenly admit they're using the sales of the Win32 (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
Simon, (...) Heaven forbid I might use a word. (...) As I do yours, but I digress. (...) I can tell you things about political name calling, but I don't feel like bringing that up again. (...) First of all, Simon, I was not really replying to you, I (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) OK, what if I buy up ten of them now at $35 each from Larry or wherever with the intent of holding them for a year and selling them for $60. That's still a useful service. There are a whole slew categories of customers that would be receiving (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) or: (c) Don't always have enough time to spend on a well-reasoned reply that will ultimately fall on the deaf ears of someone whose opinions are simply wrong-headed. (...) Most people who actually engage in debates have no intention of being (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) All Hail Larry! To become a Larritarian, one must merely send along the brick offering to Lar. Larritarians make misteaks like everyone else; just not Larry;-) -John, speaking for Tom and (Gary) -John (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Edward Sanburn writes: OK - as your posting was mostly just an 'I agree' response to what Larry wrote, I wouldn't have thought of replying to it - until I saw this. (...) The following applies to you Scott, Mike (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: Hmmm - interesting. Some good points there about what actually happened with the blue hoppers. Unfortunately, although you've responded to points made by several other people, you haven't directly (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Well, that's very flattering. But I don't even know if I qualify as a disciple of Larritarianism (sp?). If you ask people who know me I just *think* I never make mistakes. (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
This whole subject is a rehash from a debate from a few months ago, but it keeps surfacing... (...) I hope not as well. Larry is as sharp as ever. I love reading both of your responses. It is refreshing to see people of your caliber (both Larry & (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Good for you, good for him. Good for everyone. Down with whining. (...) You shouldn't have, unless you wanted to. I've known about BB for a LONG time. I've never felt the urge to order from them even for some Castle stuff I might have wanted, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
I figured I'd let this percolate for a while before I responded. First a side point, auctioning IS selling. What else would it be? You all know my stance on it, it's the fairest way to allocate a scarce quantity. And it is a kind of sale. Now, I'm (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: web surveys
 
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote (...) I am aware. What I'm doing is read-only so that's not really an issue. All I want is SQL-type queries on a huge mound of text data, so MySQL seems suitable. Moz (25 years ago, 10-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: web surveys
 
Just be careful with MySQL. It currently supports NO transaction or concurrency control whatever. If you're good and you're careful, that's OK but you need to be aware. There are other solutions out there for about the same per seat cost that do (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) And in many cases this is an almost completely empty gesture meant to stop the obvious scalping (or the non-persistant scalping) and the whining of parents who didn't make it to the store on time to get the coolest new thing their kids must (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Sorry, I don't demand all this touch-feely crap from the businesses I deal with. I want to call them up, buy whatever they are selling at whatever price they're asking for it, and not be bothered with, "uh, let us check our list to make sure (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
Simon Robinson wrote in message ... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) you suggest with both Halloween Buckets and Star Wars LEGO sets. The limit was two per person. I don't know how they enforced it but there was a sign in the Star Wars aisle stating that (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
In lugnet.market.shopping, Larry Pieniazek writes: OK - I'm not the same Simon :) but I'll bite on this one. I've been watching the way things have gone with the blue hopper cars with some growing concern - and I don't think everyone here has (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) I'd like to think that you'd regard doing business as a bit more than that. There's two sides of it: A. Making a profit, and B. Providing a good service to your customers. Both are important. Selling all your stock no matter who to may be the (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: web surveys
 
Sproaticus <jsproat@io.com> wrote (...) Depends very much on how you look at it, IMO. I will probably be using MySQL shortly because it's the cheapest usable solution for my situation. And yes, it will cost me $US200, regardless of platform, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) I'm to much of a chicken to do that too:) (25 years ago, 9-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: web surveys
 
(...) I have probably only seen programs by bad Perl programmers then. Perl code is a bit difficult to read, and it seems that at least some programmers manage quite well to write code they can't understand a few months later. I also see a bit of (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: web surveys
 
(...) Alternately, it might be that they're chosing to make it for sale for the platform with the most mass-market potential, and for techie niche platforms, give it away, which won't hurt their bottom line much, but will increase their geek cred. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: web surveys
 
(...) Ever try to read a script that you didn't write? Or one that you wrote -quickly- a month or six ago? <grin> (...) Erm.... rather depends on what (1) the vendor is trying to accomplish (see below) and (2) what the vednor sees as the target (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Sell or auction? (...) That's a good idea. No problem with that. (...) Well Paul just did a standard profit margin on what he paid for them - since LEGO Denmark had them on the cheap because they wanted to clear them out - the end price was (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: Sorry for not replying to this earlier - been a little busy. Anyway... (...) <snip> (...) Just out of interest, why? Is it because you're worried about dodgy people being on the web or because you don't (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Censorship? Hah! (Was: Somebody help.)
 
(...) <SARCASM> Anything less would *OBVIOUSLY* be stifling freedom of speech. Like when libraries choose to block certain Internet sites... </SARCASM> Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
I saw the same thing at a Genesee County Fair on the outskirts of Flint, Michigan. I don't know who sponsored it, but there were a few creations that were just the sets. Man, I guess I could have one first place too! :) Scott S. (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
All I do is give;-) Ryan, go here: (URL) rest is up to you. -John (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Perhaps a virtual order from Harry's is in order? (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Now that's a great idea!!!!!! ;-) Jodi (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) I think Fleshy Friends(tm) is what he's trying to acquire. I've been assuming the second option listed above. If I were so geeky that I couldn't ask girls out (oh wait...I was :-) then I would certainly be too insecure to discuss how insecure (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
(...) Same thing happened to me at the Taupo Hobby Expo. In 1998 I noticed a few creations that were not original and had won prizes. For example the Divers set with the whale skeleton on a large grey baseplate instead of the original base. So I (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jodi Neal writes: If there is a mall with a movie theater (...) I was thinking maybe 6TH SENSE Rated PG-13 (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
(...) collaborate (...) minds. (...) I'm in Garfield Heights, Ohio (An inner-ring cleveland suburb). While I wouldn't mind some copetition, we didn't have an originality problem last year. You may want to check with James though, the original (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
(...) What area do you live in? If you're in the near South, maybe we can collaborate a humongoid effort to "moon-dust" the comapny sets off of the judges' minds. It is just a thought.... (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
(...) I haven't seen a LEGO commercial in years. I don't watch TV at the right time, I guess. Even so, in any competition involving construction toys, the judges should have some knowledge of what the commercial offerings are. If there was at least (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
My suggestion is to take S@H catalogs with you next year, so that if people do enter stock sets, you can point it out to the judges. (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
Ryan Smith wrote in message ... (...) Note?..How old are you?..:-) Anyway, you are living in America and your age is over 15 right? It shouldn't be that much diffucult. Go on and talk with her...About anything...try to find out common points and If (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
What irked me so much was that some of the (...) Our community fair has an actual Lego-specific competion among the other arts & Crafts type competitions. The rules specifically state that it must be an ORIGINAL creation. The problem is that the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
That does sound mad.... Insectoids winning a prize. I would have laughed out load if a classic space set had beaten all that new stuff! Scott A (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) theater (...) at (...) afterwards (...) Sorry for the response I gave you earlier today, I wasn't thinking right. They are no ineresting comedy's in my town if you were wondering. (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Well, I guess I was a little harsh, but I would say that soliticing advice about relationships from a group of strangers [1] on the net is dubious at best. Seems to me this is what fleshy friends are for. At worst I would deem it a pernicious (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Not sure I would have put it *quite* this way, but yeah, what he said. I've been as tolerant as I'm going to be, made some suggestions I thought were helpful only to have him ask me to write the thing for him (poem), then to see this kind of (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
John, what's your problem? I'd agree it's rather unfortunate that Ryan hasn't responded to the gentle suggestions that .people would be a better place to discuss this. But to say (...) is - well - words fail me - do you _really_ mean that? Wanting (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
(...) Actually, a blue, black, and gray castle w/various themed figures won the blue ribbon. Moreover, how could they not know. COMMERCIALS FOR THE STAR WARS (Classic) COLLECTION AND THE ROCK RAIDERS COLLECTION HAVE BEEN RUNNING ON TV FOR THE PAST (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
(...) Opps.. I mean Lucas.. not Speilburg... bad fingers.. bad fingers :( (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn)
 
  Re: Has the world gone mad?!?
 
You are seeing Judges that aren't up on what Lego has brought out as stock models, that's where the problem comes in... they probably don't know that what the kids did wasn't their own creation made from the Lego... it's sad to see that stock Lego (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Hey Ryan, you sound like a real prize. I can tell you have a great future ahead of you relating to women. Now why don't you pack up your little pubescent Q&A and go back to RTL like a good boy, or at the least .people. Your inane blathering (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Has the world gone mad?!?
 
I went to the Mid-South Fair in Memphis. In the arts & crafts pavillion, they have a section where people (mostly kids) make art out of toys. (Most of the case was Legos.) What irked me so much was that some of the sets receiving ribbons and prizes (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.us.tn.mem, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tn)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Tomorrow is D-Day in my opinion (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
a light comedy A light comedy? You're crazy. If it was going to be comedy I'd try to see South Park Bigger Longer & Uncut but it's not out anymore:( (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Unless you want to discuss why this thread should not continue here anymore, I suggest you take Todd's subtle hint and post to .people. <hint, hint> Or, more plainly, this isn't Love Line, it's .debate. Call Adam and Dr. Drew, but don't post (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
. Write a non-sappy non-love poem and (...) Could you give me a starting line? and How am I going to drop it off to her if I can ever think of one? (...) (25 years ago, 3-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Hrmmm... if you're going to just ask her out, I'd just ASK her out. Asking in a note seems ... childish. I'm picturing "Do you like me, check Yes or No" (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) How do you know this girl? Is she in one of your classes, or is she a friend of a friend? Are you in a club together? Here's the best piece of advice I can give you: Talk to her. Figure out a way to get her talking and keep it up. Keep the (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
 
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(...) I could just write her a note and ask her out. Sound good or not? (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) Nope, not a good idea. (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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I could do a sercret admire thing but I wouldn't know how to end it. (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) goes (...) I remember, I HATE writing I suck at it also. I remember having to write poems last year in 8th grade. (...) started High School Do you have a Creative Writing teacher in your school? I think so We did, and I took it as an (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) :) I said non-love poem, remember. :) How close are you to your English teacher? Do you have a Creative Writing teacher in your school? We did, and I took it as an elective all 4 years in high school. Find someone like that and talk to them, (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) Definitely. These things work too, just make sure you stack the deck in you favor. And be open to the idea that you might just end up liking one of the other girls more once you see them all out in a non-school environment. :) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) Here's the only poem I know: Roses are red and violets are blue and I love you. I think that's how it goes (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) Consider organizing a mixed group to do the same thing. Makes it less of a date, and more just guys hanging out, therefore less threatening to all involved, and less potential for disaster. If you and this girl hit it off, then you can worry (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) theater (...) at (...) afterwards (...) Like I said I'm a chicken, oh by the way, there are no curfews in my town(yet:) There are two malls, well, one is in a minimall and the other just sits alone on the opposite side of the highway across (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) All seriousness aside, I think you ought to ask her if she wants to check out your LEGO collection! Uh, what was the question again? Wasn't it how to remain geeky and single your whole life? No? Oh.... nevermind. [1] -John [1] a la Emily (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
Well, here's some insite from a woman. If there is a mall with a movie theater in your town, and a movie presently showing there that is a light comedy, just go up to her in the hall and ask if she would like to see with you. Something like... Hi, (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Interesting question! Y'know what? This would actually be perfectly appropriate in the new lugnet.people newsgroup (created 18 Sep 1999)... :-) CHARTER/PURPOSE: lugnet.people (group): All about LEGO® people (enthusiasts, fans, maniacs, (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
 
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(...) Ah, the most dangerous kind. I dated my Latin teacher's daughter in high school. Everyone thought we made the perfect couple - the classical twins they called us. Ended badly, as all young romances do. I'll tell you what I'll gladly tell my (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) I write a lot, yeah. But you don't want me to write one for you, you want to do it yourself. And you _can_ write poetry. Everyone can. Poetry doesn't have to rhyme, have perfect meter, or anything else, it just has to come from your muse, and (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) I forgot to mention this. It might not be important but, she is the daughter of one of my former teachers (5 and 6 grade) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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(...) I've got a problem, I can't write poems, can you? (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somebody help.
 
(...) Take it from me (and personal) experience. At this age you don't _want_ to go out with older girls. She'll just break your heart - they all do. Then again, maybe she won't. Write a non-sappy non-love poem and ask her to read it. Some girls (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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