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Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
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Date: 
Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:02:05 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:

> > > Wrong?  I'd call it unsavory, but I wouldn't legislate against it.
> > > Unless you mean they're addicting their customers by force.
> > 
> > or fraud. But of course I hold fraud to be a kind of force.
> 
> I know that Libertarians are into the Force 'n' Fraud phrase, and I
> guess I mostly agree, but I know that while I can easily define force,
> fraud isn't quite so easy.
> 
> In the case of drug dealers, is saying "hey, it isn't that bad for you,
> just try it and see" fraud?  Is it fraud to sell it at a certain price
> and raise the price once your customers are addicted?
> 
> I would say no.  It's still unsavory - and I would be very retributive
> if someone duped a loved one that way - but I don't think it's fraud or
> should be illegal.

You seem to imply
there's a difference between being 'wrong' and being 'unsavoury',
but I can't see any difference in principle - perhaps a small difference
of degree in that 'unsavoury' implies a smaller amount of wrongness.

Also, aren't you contradicting yourself here? If you don't see the
drug-dealing example being discussed as 'wrong' then how can
you possibly justify being retributive over it?

Simon
http://www.SimonRobinson.com



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  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Well, I sort of meant that if everyone affected by the deal agrees to it, then nothing else matters. I assume you agree that you can waive your rights if you so choose. (...) I know that Libertarians are into the Force 'n' Fraud phrase, and I (...) (27 years ago, 15-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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