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Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
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Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:55:25 GMT
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Simon,
Simon Robinson wrote:
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Edward Sanburn writes:
> OK - as your posting was mostly just an 'I agree' response
> to what Larry wrote, I wouldn't have thought of replying to
> it - until I saw this.
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> > defending free markets and no whining! :) More power to both of you!
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> The following applies to you Scott, Mike Stanley, Tom Stangl, and anyone
> else who uses the word 'whining' to describe those who happen to
> disagree with them.
Heaven forbid I might use a word.
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> Larry has just posted a very interesting and informative message
> on the subject of the blue hopper car issue. Now as anyone who follows
> off-topic.debate will know, I abhor Larry's politics.
As I do yours, but I digress.
> He and I are poles
> apart in our political views. Nevertheless I respect him as a solid,
> honest, and reliable trader, and - more importantly here - as someone
> who does think through his arguments, and almost always tries to
> reason things out. I know that if I post up a serious argument, any
> reply from Larry will usually also be serious, and be worth reading
> carefully. I might disagree with his basic premises, his conclusions,
> and aspects of his reasoning. But I can still see where he's coming
> from. Sadly, amongst the right wingers and total-free-market
> supporters here, Larry is one of not many people I can say all that
> about.
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> When you resort to such things as just calling the arguments
> you don't agree with 'whining' you are doing little more than
> political name-calling.
I can tell you things about political name calling, but I don't feel like
bringing that up again.
> You are using emotive or pejorative words
> as a substitute for actually coming up with any reason for
> holding the opinions you do. It might sound impressive to you
> but to people who don't agree with you it just looks
> (a) pretty immature, and
> (b) like you're name-calling because you don't have any serious
> arguments to back up your opinions with.
First of all, Simon, I was not really replying to you, I was giving a compliment
to both Mike and Larry. Whining is a word, it has a definition, when people say,
"Its not fair that a few people bought all the Blue Car Hoppers, we should make
it fair to everyone", I consider that whining. Whether you agree with that or
not, I could not care less of. Secondly, "being immature" by using one word is a
thin, and very improper way of judging whether I am immature, much less then by
going whatever you think immaturity is. Ask anyone around that knows me, they
know I am not immature.
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> And frankly, it doesn't make for a constructive contribution
> to any debate.
Well, I think it does. Left wingers are always whining that things are not fair,
etc. across the board, in many countries, including the US and the UK. If you
don't like it, don't respond then.
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> Perhaps you don't care whether that's the impression you
> give (but then if you didn't care what people thought, why
> post anything at all?)
I am not trying to impress you, Simon, or anyone else. I was giving a compliment
to Mike and Larry.
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> To be fair, people on all sides of political arguments do that
> sometimes - I've probably let myself slip into using emotive
> words in that way myself a few times - and there's also been
> times when I've been irritated to see people I actually agree with
> doing it excessively - but it is hard to avoid it
> all the time. But if your messages contain little else but
> that kind of tone and no actual reasoning - which is certainly
> true of this posting of yours - then what are you trying to
> achieve? If you just want to register your agreement with
> Larry then it IS possible to do that without name-calling
> people you don't agree with.
> If you want to add anything
> by way of justifying your and his views, then perhaps you
> could try posting something logical and coherent that we
> could seriously discuss?
I have posted so many times about my views in regards to so many things,
including this one, that I don't have to post them again. Like I said at the
beginning of the post, this is a rehash from the last round of whining about
purchases, selling, etc. Go back and look, you'll see where I stand, Simon.
Usually, when in debates regarding various things, people that cannot stand in
the political arenas are the ones who complain, or whine, or go on about
infinities amount of nothing, usually attack a pointless item, such as the use
of the word, "whining." Have a good day.
Scott S.
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Scott E. Sanburn
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Affiliated Engineers, Inc. Ann Arbor, MI
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| Scott Edward Sanburn wrote: <snippage of some pointless flames [come on, guys]> (...) This is just a random post to something Scott said, but it made me think of why I was a Liberal and why I'm not completely Libertarian. It has to do with stuff. I (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Edward Sanburn writes: OK - as your posting was mostly just an 'I agree' response to what Larry wrote, I wouldn't have thought of replying to it - until I saw this. (...) The following applies to you Scott, Mike (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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