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  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) I honestly don't know! Must be some other forum I hung out on or something. Or maybe I made it up? Who can say. I use it to mean "yes?" (as in, "do you agree?") and only at the end of sentences. Anyone recognise it? Google wasn't much help. No (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Most importantly, you haven't told me where "ne" came from. Very clever omission--what are you hiding? (...) I've wondered about something like that. I believe the Turing test hypothesizes that a computer convincingly able to mimic human (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Fictitious Presidency"? How about "Fictitious Oscar"?
 
(...) Uh, I meant the "royal we";-) (...) Definitely political (adversaries). (...) I wonder how the second place documentary maker looked in a swimsuit;-D JOHN (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Fictitious Presidency"? How about "Fictitious Oscar"?
 
(...) We? No. I'd be laughing with him. So, do you reckon this is coming from his political targets or his rival documentary makers? It's certainly not coming from the Academy. What would be interesting is what the 'second placed' documentary maker (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Fictitious Presidency"? How about "Fictitious Oscar"?
 
(...) He is so far removed from reality that he probably would. I believe that a normal person, having some semblance of dignity and pride, would be horrified were it to happen to them. But the fact would remain that we would be laughing *at* him, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
Oh heck, I snipped most of it without regard to whether I agreed with it or not... (...) No they aren't. At least not always. AM I THAT predictable? I'm not a number (in a platform plank somewhere), I'm a free man! But maybe I could make an (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Fictitious Presidency"? How about "Fictitious Oscar"?
 
(...) That's the downside of this, yes, but preventing future budding Moores from winning might be worth the cost. (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Fictitious Presidency"? How about "Fictitious Oscar"?
 
(...) ROFL! Humiliation? Don't you think he'd enjoy the publicity? Cheers Richie (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  "Fictitious Presidency"? How about "Fictitious Oscar"?
 
The consequences for Tim Robbins' recent unpopular ramblings are miniscule compared to the potential humiliation MM faces if the Academy is convinced that his "documentary" Bowling For Columbine is in fact not eligible under its own rules for (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Hey Tom, what if I made you Transportation Secretary? You could push a federally funded 2 lane hiway down the Left Coast (or east coast as it will be for you soon) with a minimum speed limit of 100 mph...;-) Even if you decline, I use this (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) For some european news as well (not that I expect anyone but Kevin Cheng to care... ;-) www.uefa.com UEFA Champins League quarterfinals, 2nd round: Barcelona 1, JUVENTUS 2 (agg. 2-3) Valencia 2, INTER 1 (agg. 2-2) Man. United 4, REAL MADRID 3 (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Wow--both my spelling and acronymism have been off lately. Too much pudding (which are part of dinner, not lunch, around here). Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: *** For the record, I've snipped parts with which I disagree but which I recognize will not yield to discussion by either of us--you're as convinced of your correctness as I am of mine, and never (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Suppose you were right... So what? This case isn't about free speech the way I read it. It's about false advertising. If it would be wrong for you as a person to deny you owned a sweatshop when actually you did, it owuld be wrong for Nike to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
(...) The difference being that he signed a contract that included (as apparently many major league contracts do) a clause about his conduct off the field as a representative of the Braves. I'd have to go digging in news archives to get the exact (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Technically: TANSTAAFL (there aint no such thing as a free lunch) and desserts form part of lunch. At least around here they do. (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) But I don't accept that a corporation has an opinion, nor can any executive of that company have a pure opinion regarding the company. Everything, in effect, must be taken as an effort to serve the bottom line, since that's the whole purpose (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) I think sacrosanct expression is put forth as TAANSTFL, but pudding in my world model is a dessert, not a lunch. Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Me. Who's going to pay for it??? There are no free goods, you know that already, Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Na. You show ME where it's guaranteed they don't! Remember, enumeration of rights is not necessarily exhaustive. (...) How so? If they mail in their utterances and they get published, it doesn't matter where they were when they were uttered, (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) As I understand the suit, it was asserting that Nike was lying and thus the claim of "false advertising". Clearly this is central to the issue. If they are indeed stating a falsehood and not simply an opinion, then they should be slammed. If (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) <snip> (...) I think it could, in the same way 'class action' lawsuits work-- "Excuse me witness A--why did you stop buying ice cream?" "Why it causes cancer, of course!" "where did you hear that?" "From this website that explicitly said it (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Corporations often run self-serving ads. Mobil use to have a regular paid ad in the Los Angeles Times where it spun things to it's own advantage. I stopped going to Mobil stations because they got pretty thick for a while. And I think that is (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Ne. Hence the other post, which I would have foreshadowed if I'd had any planning. (...) And who doesn't advocate free pudding? Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Well you shouldn't have snipped it without comment, then. Snipping stuff around here tends to mean you agree, ne? (not always but of course...) (...) Wouldn't that be a "greater advocate of free pudding"? (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) If I get pudding out of the deal, I'm with Larry. Canada has no 1st ammendment clause, iirc, but somehow my freedom of speech doesn't seem to be limited. Do we actually need a specific clause outlining the necessity of freedom of speech, or (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Wait a minute--show me where in the Constitution it is guaranteed that corporations have free speech. I'm not talking about some nebulous, fantasy market-of-ideas, but rather the actual Constitution, since that's what's being discussed in the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) I don't buy your application of free speech in that post, though. You might as well have said "I advocate a second helping of pudding for everyone, therefore I'm a greater advocate of free speech." Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Ahhh...hhh! NOOO...OOO! John, I like you, I really do. But as a President of the US? Ummmmmm, no. -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Eeep!! Oh wait. All we like sheep... Dave K (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) "Your attention please: is there a "John Neal" in the NG?" You might have to adjust your thinking. I don't know about you, but I work for a living (self-employed), and so if I don't do anything, I don't make any money. I'd like to hang out (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Stangl, stop scaring the children. (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Note that the cited article doesn't say what exactly the original suit is about, exactly. If Nike was lying about conditions in factories, there may well be grounds for a libel suit there if you can just find the party libeled. Or a fraudulent (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl writes: "...President John Neal..." Hmmm... JOHN (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) You know me, right? Therefore I am in the set of "anyone I know". And (the rest of) my post showed that I'm a bigger proponent of free speech than you are. QED. (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Ah, but my scorn is targetted to a few specific people, not the whole population ;-) (...) No worries, really. As I'm sure you've seen me post before, I'd be much more fearful of President John Neal than President Frog ;-) -- Tom Stangl (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) How could anti-american agendas like the Patriot Acts I & II be anything but premeditated? I mean, really -- even McCarthyism was a planned thing -- it stank to high heaven but it was someone's specific agenda. Just like the Inquisition and (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) ?? (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) First, I'd say there's a difference b/w a corporation and a gov't institution--separation of church and state is gov't, not corporation. Dubya 'talking God' is irrelevant. Dubya supporting keeping "Under God" in the PoA is wrong. I also thing (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) Well, maybe not. (...) They don't themselves have to be citizens for their actions to be protected. Engage in this thought experiment with me. Suppose I take out an ad in the paper that says "Hop Frog sometimes posts mean things in (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Free Speech, again
 
(URL) I am as big a proponent of free speech as anyone I know, but I don't accept that corporations are citizens protected under the first amendment. Ditto any corporate executive or agent speaking on behalf of the corporation; the speech of *the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl writes: <snip> (...) I took it as a wonderful reference to a "Calvin and Hobbes" comic strip myself... But then, almost anything can be "Kevin Baconed" back to "Calvin and Hobbes". Dave K (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
<jump, jump> ;-) Froggy, Others may not have the time to visit all the links you post. You posted decent excerpts this time, but even then, some may visit the first link, read it through, and extrapolate that they don't have enough time to finish (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Simply never saw it. In any case, it speaks for itself, I think. The only way it will really correct itself is by investors looking at the executive pay and figuring that that execs are siphoning off too much money, money that they don't (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) I suppose they can suggest it to those predisposed to believing in a Greater Being, yes. But when you consider the # of stars in just our galaxy, and the # of planets that they can have (we find more and more every year, and as our technology (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Part of it is that I'm so disgusted by it that I can't bear to comment, and another reason is that I don't want to invite any lectures me re: "they're only receiving what the market says they should receive." I heard or read somewhere that a (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
I am slightly disappointed that nobody has anything to say about this post. Before Stangl jumps all over me, I am not specifically calling attention to myself as much as the issues I hoped to raise with the original post. Y'all can go right back to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
How exactly is what you are advocating different from cosigning discrimination? useful definitions: discrimination -- treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit prejudice -- irrational suspicion or hatred of a (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Hey, all are welcome! (...) Bruce addressed this already, but I thought I'd throw in my view as well. The first is the problem of precedent: when you estimate the odds of a bus accident, you can base it on known occurrences under similar (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Well, in a democracy the people get to self-determine already - so one can argue about the use of having two states in similar circumstances taking similar decisions, when this only works to double institutions. The more states there are, the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
(...) Er, no you don't... You merely know that I chose not to make that particular finding clear one way or another. :-) (any flattery I may have uttered at the time notwithstanding) (URL) to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello writes: <snip> (...) I'd like to be there for that competition! Dave K (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
(...) I was yesterday reminded of the case of John Rocker. For those of you that aren't familiar with Rocker's situation, he was a star closing pitcher for the Atlanta Braves, very popular and highly regarded with the organization. In a Sports (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) Again, if I were a hockey fan I might know fer sure who was still innit. I grew up in a sea of hockey fans so all my info is thru them. I think the Sens are still in and I know the Canucks are. So Vancouver or Ottawa--two teams i don't have (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Given the right conditions (and we are talking about an incomprehensibly high number of planets with varying conditions), it may well be that the odds against life happening somewhere are the longshots. Atoms and molecules like to form certain (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Puerto Rico occasionally holds referendums to decide whether to remain a territory (technically a commonwealth) or become a state. I found this on the web as an example: (URL) fairly sure PR would benefit greatly from becoming a state. In the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: Whoops! That's the one I meant to delete. Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) The Wild won!!!...!!! (...) Game 7! How could they do this period????? (...) Lessee, who is next for my Wild (Man I hate team names that aren't plurals:-/)... the Canucks! >;^D (...) Wanna make a friendly US-Canadian wager? :-) JOHN (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Sure the free states were more free, if you were a white male (and a landowner, IIRC). But in terms of personally restrictive laws, I suppose you're correct. Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Sure the free states were more free, if you were a white male (and a landowner, IIRC). But in terms of restrictive laws, I suppose you're correct. Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Sorry to be a buttinski here, but I just thought of something. What about the odds angle? Sometimes coincidences are too great; that is, that the odds of something happening a certain way are way beyond normal expectation. Say, for instance, (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Less democratic, yes. Less free (at least in the free states anyway)? Arguable. (Free society == democratic society) == false (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) True, but the US was hardly even partly democratic at the time (except on paper)! Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Whoops! I meant "nope" as in "nope, you're not misremembering", sorry about that. Texans talk about separatism more often than most, for sure. (...) More like 51st through 64th or whatever, one state for each province/territory I would (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Jefferson Muzzle Fix!
 
(...) I concur--very nifty site! This past weekend I was visiting the SO in T.O., and was reading these Muzzles out loud to her and her roomies--her artistic roomie was very interested in the 'censoring nude art' and we had a great talk about what (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) K, my misremembery--I thought I read somewhere about a decade ago that there were some Texans talking about forming a 'separatist' movement... (...) That is, until, as some Canadians talk about, Canada becomes the 51st state. Is Puerto Rico (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Jefferson Muzzle Fix!
 
(...) Um, did you say something? I can't pay attention to all you Daves! (seriously, nifty site) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Nope. They're the only (?? (1) ) state that joined by treaty after being an independent republic rather than being an original founder (that ratified the constitution as the means of joining) or a state formed from unorganised territory that (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Not sure what you mean by immune in this context. Some democratic nations have resisted mightily. The US Civil War was at least partly about separatism. Other democratic nations have not resisted (Czechoslovakia seems to have peacefully (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Jefferson Muzzle Fix!
 
(...) Ahh, found it-- (URL) Dave! thought no one listened to him... :) Dave K (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) But the crux of my question: "what if there isn't a reason behind the universe?" I'm not, at this point, saying conclusively whether there is or isn't one; I'm asking what would be the impact to you if there weren't a reason. Here's another (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
Coming back to a loose end... let me preface this by saying that I happen to agree with much of what Mr. Robbins said in his speech to the national press club about the dangers that americans face. Ashcroft is prima facia scary... The Patriot Act (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Jefferson Muzzle Fix!
 
(URL) which Harry Potter cast a spell and was allowed back into Ceaderville School. Now lets see if I can find the Jefferson Muzzle link again and see what else needs the 1st ammendment... Dave K (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  For Sean...
 
The Leafs lost!!!!!!!! Game 7! How could they do this to me!!! Well, the Canucks are still in--that's a good thing. Well Pat, Dougie, Sundin (et al)... Hasta La Vista until next year--go hit the golf greens... Dave K -who, if he was a hockey fan, (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) <snip> (...) Doesn't Texas every once in a while talk about being 'separate' or is that just a figment of my imagination... Just wondering... Dave K (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) I noticed the examples you gave were from nations where democracy was inexistent at the time of the breakup. So I ask: is a democratic nation immune to separatism? I mean, not the sociological phenomena in itself, rather the effective (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
(...) I have no problem whatsoever with *anyone* saying what they believe, except... God is a --how did you put it? Oh right... admonished for bad language. If we can have a confluence of ideas without one being asserted as 'Upper' and others (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
(...) I was hopeing that you'd catch me on the Upper and Lower Canada in 1867--then I could go into why I love Winona's history. So the simple idea that you missed the historical fact that Upper and Lower Canada ceased to exist at the beginning of (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) That would be analogous to asking "by what chemical (...) If we were to look at it from an opposing angle--how is the assessment that there *is* a God "behind the scenes" inferior to the view that the universe is there all by itself? Science (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  La belle province
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper writes: <snip> I dunno, Quebec doesn't seem all that oppressed to me, but I only have an outside view. Consider yourself lucky you're "stuck" with a country that would probably at least let you secede (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Guess who's next?
 
(...) Is there not a scene in "The English Patient" [film version] with a booby-trapped statue? Scott A (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tax day, give me a break
 
(...) There was an interesting letter in the Guardian yesterday about life in Cuba... ==+== Far from not trusting its own people, the more obvious reason for the crackdown on dissidents, is the Cuban government's fear of US intentions. Cuba has had (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The BBC's pro-war stance.
 
It appears the auntie beeb has not done as well as it could have when reporting the conquest of Iraq: Taking sides (URL) Baghdad fell on April 9, BBC reporters could hardly contain themselves in their haste to endorse the victors. This was a (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
Hi, Please don't take this as an attack... Just a different opinion : ) (...) I wouldn't say this is particularly fair. (Define intelligent conversation : ) ). The reason many Christians talk about God/Jesus so much is because He is their guidance, (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
(...) Unfortunately, Terry, many folks can't have an intelligent conversation without refering to god in some way shape or form. They feel that there is a guiding force in their lives that they MUST push down other folks throats 24/7/365. I feel (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "France is not a Western Country anymore"
 
(...) Separatist propaganda? What about your federalist propaganda? I told you before, I'll tell you again, You know nothing about Québec. You arguing on this subject is as irrelevant as me talking about the political situation in lituania. I've (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
(...) :-) Care to start a debate over that? Judging by my waist line, I'd say it is, because I'm going to live a lot shorter if I don't get in shape before the age of fifty! We could argue that nothing really matters, that apart from eating and (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Mike, form my POV, if GOD would have given us free will, he'd be the dumbest creature in the universe... For argument's sake, let's pretend what the Bible says is true. Free will to the ones who killed his son? To the ones who disobeyed to him (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
(...) Here Stefan, judge by yourself if I was intolerant of simply trying to keep religion out of BL since, IMHO and many others' too, it's not the place for that : (URL) you can read the whole thread and see that many others felt like me, while (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
(...) I don't care. I just didn't like your first reply. As an atheist, I too often feel that the general attitude of people is to allow people to talk about god, but if someone says God doesn't exist, then he's accused of every sin. It's unfair. We (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: ROFLMAO!!! You don't know squat about my province, your whole post was a big confused mess. First, we were forced in the Constitution in 1867. I presume your Anglo-Canadian don't tell you these facts (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heres a debate question for ya...
 
(...) While is it true that world politics take far more importance over anything else of the sort, I won't go the the extent to demean those whom veer from that discussion. Well, to each his own, I surmise. (...) Yes, the pressure does compound (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) answer (...) feeling (...) How do we know there isn't one? (...) But that does not explain 'why' it happens, only how. And know you don't need to explain the details of electron bonds and such, I know the theory and have seen it work (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Wow, Dave! I was about to pounce, er, post but you did it for me! Must be a Higher Power at work! And I *did* notice an uncharacteristic carelessness in your general construction of that post-- so yep, I would say it's bedtime! Maggie C. (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heres a debate question for ya...
 
(...) I don't know if I believe in haven... (...) Eek! Tonight must be the acception to the rule. Time for bed. Davee! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
(...) <and a bunch more witnessing> Please consider setting FUT somewhere else, it's starting to veer away from general interest, IMHO. I set FUT to ot.d but that may not be the right place to be, I dunno. (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heres a debate question for ya...
 
(...) Haven or heaven? :-) Your answer does matter. (...) except you didn't spell "sophisticated" right, Dave! Whassup wid dat, mon? (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Heres a debate question for ya...
 
(...) Here in the intellectual haven of ot.debate, we prefer the more sophsiticated "whazzzzuuuuup!?!" Dave! (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: I would like to offer a formal apology to ot.debate and to Maggie C. in particular for this line: (...) Except! What am I, the product of home-schooling?!? [1] Dave! [1] Actually, home-schooling has (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Mike--are looking for a metaphysical, over-arching "reason" behind the universe? What if there simply isn't one? Science isn't in the business of determining "why" things happen in this transcendent sense, nor should science be required to do (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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