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Subject: 
La belle province
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:30:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper writes:
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I dunno, Quebec doesn't seem all that oppressed to me, but I only have an
outside view.

Consider yourself lucky you're "stuck" with a country that would probably at
least let you secede without too much of a fight if you ever marshalled the
votes for it. Many people, oppressed far far more than you guys are, are not
that lucky by a long stretch. Consider the Nigerian/Biafran war, consider
the breakup of Yugoslavia, consider Ethiopia/Eritrea.

The general track record of nations is that they are very hostile to the
notion that people can decide they don't want to belong to the larger part
and form their own government in a smaller part. That's too bad, really. I
tend to support the rights of self determination and feel secession ought to
be allowed.

But on the other hand, I'm usually not so keen to see countries fracture
along ethnic lines, myself as the formerly oppressed minority that is the
new majority in the smaller part has this nasty habit of turning on the
former majority.

If Quebec got its way, what would you do to ensure the rights of the new
English speaking minority? From what I hear it's not very pleasant to be an
English speaker in Quebec (relatively speaking, mind you... I haven't heard
of any ethnic cleansing, thank goodness) as it is.



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  Re: La belle province
 
(...) I noticed the examples you gave were from nations where democracy was inexistent at the time of the breakup. So I ask: is a democratic nation immune to separatism? I mean, not the sociological phenomena in itself, rather the effective (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) No oppressed socially, but politically. Our rights as humans are well respected, if that's what you mean. No problem there. (...) Yep, that's 100% true. We don't consider ourselves as martyrs. We are pretty happy about our situation, even if (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: ROFLMAO!!! You don't know squat about my province, your whole post was a big confused mess. First, we were forced in the Constitution in 1867. I presume your Anglo-Canadian don't tell you these facts (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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