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(...) Who, me? I have so many gray noses at this point I may actually sell one off!!! (gulp) and I only have two white ones, so it wasn't me, ok? We're TRACKing your insinuations and would prefer not to be RAILROADed through the court of public (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Excuse me, but I've got to rail a bit about all this punning. Some of us aren't really stoked for it, and find we've run out of steam long before we've made the grade. Nothing stops you people once you get rolling; stock prices could crash, (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Sorry if it bothers you, but you don't have to get all LOCO about it. WHEEL stop after a COUPLER more. UNIT, TRAIN yourself to just ignore them. Any any traveler knows, Carryon is better than checked. (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) DIESEL kill me if they keep up. Steve (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Yeah, but they're so Engenious! (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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I'm SIDING with Steve, stop SPURring us on, John. I'm not sure I can EXPRESS myself any more clearly. (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) You guys must really enjoy PUNisment. (It is the original.) And when Punning, all is fair. Louise (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) This is getting really TERMINAL. There must be SUBWAY we can head this off. I really want to be an AGENT of change. We must BRIDGE our differences, make a POINT of SWITCHing our tactics, and LEGO this whole thread. Steve (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) This thread is already a YARD long and becoming less atTRACKtive. The real humor in this LINE of discussion SPIKEd a long time ago. We should put our semi-CONDUCTORS to better use. Think I'll go TIE one on... -Tom McD. (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Use a PUN, go to prison. "I should be punishéd For every pun I shed. Do not leave a puny shred Of my punnish head." -Dr. Samuel Johnson (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Don't freight and have a cow; Guard above will protect you. [1] [1] more proof that all threads eventually lead to the existence of Guard;) (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) ?? That one lost me. (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Fret and cow guard (cow catcher). Guard I assume is God. Wow. I thought I stretched puns, but those are crossing bounds I've never seen before. That's almost the tail WAGON the dog. -Tom McD. (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:22:37 GMT, Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities... (...) However, it is so often the case that proponents of this philosophy are extremely selfish, leaving no room for anyone else's carry-on. Their one bag taking (...) (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Whew, you pressed a hot button there. Two points. First, on carryon: Airlines need to make their bins bigger. I am a business traveler. I am often paying 5 and 10 times as much as the leisure traveler because I had to make my arrangements at the (...) (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I don't fly much, actually never when I can avoid it, so I don't know much about it. But isn't the airline responsible for any damage they might cause to your luggage? (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Come on, Larr, don't hold back. Tell us how you _really_ feel;-) BTW Please post your travel itinerary so that the rest of us will know which dates to block out for fear of getting steam rolled by samsonite{:-O Personally, I hate the hassles of (...) (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Yes, but dirt, wet, straps torn off, scratches, or rips in the material are all "normal wear and tear", so, **essentially**, no. (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I would think that if you forced an airline employee to sign a receipt for your luggage stating that it had none of those things that if you get it back with damage you can demonstrate that it wasn't nomral wear and tear YOU caused. A pipe (...) (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I've tried. They won't. You can waste lots of time trying, though. Also, it doesn't matter the cause, the point is that they claim that rips THEY cause are part of the luggage "protecting its contents" process and therefore normal. Therefore I (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) <snipped Mr. Nice Guy> <Customer relations anecdote> Having once worked as a bank teller I try to do the same thing because I really appreciated it when folks that had problems would come in and calmly state their case, and then patiently wait (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) No, it requires luggage handling equipment that does not mangle luggage. Most rips occur because the equipment is not properly designed, or was not properly maintained. Since this is typically a shared resource, owned by the airport itself, (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) _forced_ an airline employee? I think they'd be much happier to lose your custom than to set _that_ precedent. Jasper "flown twice in my life - there and back" Janssen (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) _bumped_ from a flight? You mean, as in, you've payed for a ticket, plane leaves on time, you were there, but there was no room for you because some bigwig payed them bigtime to get in ahead of you? Is that _legal_?! Jasper (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Privatisation also has a history of making stuff a hell of a lot more expensive. Frex, the trains system here has been privatised a few years ago. Now, the gummint has to pay the NS more money to support them, than that the loss used to be (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Not only legal, but a completely normal daily business practice. I understand the interest they make on tickets paid for bumped flights is staggering. And that's my conspiracy theory of the day. Cheers, - jsproat (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) It's not a matter of who paid how much. Airlines overbook. That usually works because not everyone shows up. When they all do, the airlines are required to first ask for volunteers to give up their seats in exchange for a payment of the (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Naah.. I think _bumped_from_a_flight means: you're flying over the ocean. Plane hits a speedbump and whoops..there you go. From 15 km hight falling towards the (at that speed rock-hard) water... Mark (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Side note: you can also "fly on stand-by", which means you're the first to go if there isn't enough room. It's cheaper than regular tickets, but I'm not sure by how much. Or if you get less compensation if you are bumped to a later flight. Steve (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can't agree with this. Privatization does not work when profit should not be the ultimate goal. Consider Aramark. Aramark took over the dining services at UT last year. They have indeed done wonders to improve the profitability of the dining (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My luggage story: I don't travel much lately. (I refuse to make myself crazy trying to do it with the kids, my parents can come out here to visit.) Anyway, the last time I did, when I checked in the girl said fine, you can carry that bag on (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:34:02 GMT, Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities... (...) How true. The airports sell a system to the airlines, extolling the virtues of its wonderful new technology. It fails frequently, is usually designed for (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 00:48:19 GMT, Jasper Janssen uttered the following profundities... (...) Had our budget today. Petrol will now cost about 66p a litre, which is $1.05. An imperial gallon (4.54 litres)will now cost $4.80 or so! A US gallon (3.78541 (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <much info specific to the losers running the UT dining facilities snipped, all true> As a side note, the guys in my office refer to getting breakfast each morning at the cafeteria closest to us as "breakfast lotto". We're all fairly set on (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Gee, living in the US sounds better and better all the time. (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I never fly on standby unless it's leisure and I don't care when I get there. But I usually do care, so I never fly on standby. If you don't get on, you get NO compensation. That's why it's called "standby" :-) note that when I am traveling (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm sorry. You weren't listening when I said that any so called "privatization failure" can be explained by analysing and demonstrating why it wasn't really privatization. You proved my point. You have given an example of a replacement of one (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But you do get a later flight (still stand-by, of course)? Or do you just go nowhere? Steve (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Eventually you will get where you are going. But you will have to wait until there is a flight that has seats available and all the "more senior" standbys have went. Theoretically, with perfect yield management, there never would be seats (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You seem to be mixing privatization with monopolization. I agree that it is still a monopoly, and as thus it still has special problems and considerations that need to be dealt with but are usually ignored. However, this does definitely meet (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Before Larry tries to get me on a grammar point, I do notice my thus/such mistake in this post. I rearranged some stuff and left the wrong word in. Oops. All in fun :) (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:14:11 GMT, Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities... (...) We, (United Airlines), purchased Big Blue for yield management. It isn't really feasible to determine how successful it is at the moment, as the (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dictionary, Schmictionary. Words mean what I want them to mean. However, if you insist... What was privatized was a food service operation. The customer of that operation was UT. Not you. You're just the captive audience. If you have some budget (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Yes, see for example this headline from last week's Atlanta Journal/Constitution - "OVERBOOKED: Delta 'denied' 13,449: Atlanta air carrier ranks seventh among U.S. airlines" During the past year(?) they had to turn that many people involuntarily. (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Won't happen, I would usually already have volunteered (I volunteer on Fridays but not on Sundays as I have more flexibility at the start). (...) and maybe your load factor was lower... the typical hotel load factor averages in the 60s these (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) As much as this turns my stomach, it is true. Which is why students and staff can complain until the cows come home, but as long as UT is saving money that big orange screw is going to keep on turning. (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<36E6E395.35B7F068@c...puter.org> <36E7102B.6B18DB9B@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Oh, and I forgot to say... under MY definition, it wasn't privatization. Take your choice... your (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You have 22% income tax, and _still_ complain? Jeesh. Income tax here is 0% on first 6000 guilders, 38 or something % on, I believe, next..30-odd thousand, 50 % on the next 50-somethign thou, 60% onward. You're almost as bad as those (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sounds _exactly_ like my cable-modem provider. Jasper (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) have (...) Ah, well... if you've volunteered then they don't count it as a "bump" - though you, the customer, might of course still do so. -- Steven | svore at mindspring .com | kf4fbk | TC++MS++#15LS+M+HalYB64m (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Sorry if this is a double post. Sprintlink seems swamped today. (...) Well, as long as you are changing the definitions of words to suit your arguments, I can't counter you, so I guess you win. There are two kinds of logic that can't be countered - (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<36E74AC3.DF4ABBA2@voyager.net> <36E82620.D84B40F3@c...puter.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) It seems that there was a major fiber cut in Atlanta today. 2 of our 3 ISPs are down. Strange that I (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:23:20 GMT, Jasper Janssen uttered the following profundities... (...) The new tax system is abolition of the 20% band(Payable on the 1st 5 or so 1000 pounds). That has been replaced with a 10% band, but only stretches to the (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This reminded me of my "twilight zone" trip two years ago - driving across the states as a vacation(1) ended up hitting Minneapolis fairly late - tried to get a room and to misuse a quote "there were none to be found" after trying about 8 (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) AHA! So that's why my ftp's were slow today after the fiber cut - YOU were stealing all the bandwidth. :) (26 years ago, 12-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The best idea I've heard yet for calming down the anxieties of airports! First airport in line PLEASE be Detroit!!! With a separate cleaning staff, only for that room... so it might get done. Sorry. I'd been trying to figure out how my whimpering (...) (26 years ago, 12-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) You just never know what will kick off a thread around here... Steve (26 years ago, 12-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Ditto. (...) Ditto. (...) No idea. (...) Glad to see they're finally getting rid of those discriminatory marriage benefits. A litre of unleaded 98 octan goes for around 2.20 guilders here, or somewhat majorly over a USD. Jasper (26 years ago, 12-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<36E74AC3.DF4ABBA2@voyager.net> <36E82620.D84B40F3@c...puter.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, OK, I was being a little flippant, but my argument boils down to this: It WAS a successful (...) (26 years ago, 13-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The media isn't as clueless as you might think. Both of my parents have been in the (print) media at times (my mother is now), and they (and I) know a lot of stuff about things that they CAN'T print in the newspaper. Note that I do agree (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<36EAE2D3.5DECD9C@voyager.net> <36EB0747.F21DAC91@c...puter.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PBS does a better job of getting their facts right, usually, but their bias sometimes is astonishingly huge. (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<36EAE2D3.5DECD9C@voyager.net> <36EB0747.F21DAC91@c...puter.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) There are individuals who work in the media who are with clue, but I agree with Larry. _The Media_ as (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One of Rachael's degrees is in journalism (appropriate that it is a B.S., imo) and the other is in English. Having taken classes with a number of her fellow journalism majors, I concur that the majority of the people I've met who are majoring (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36eb9d57.11798658@l...et.com>... (...) from 6% (for vital sources like bread, basic food materials) up to 25% (luxury(!) items, icluding things like home appliances, and so). (...) Packet of 20 goes for 350 000TL, (...) (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So, I assume Lego is taxed at 6%? :-) -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Come on, everkone is KtoK compliant bk now, aren't thek? Jasper "Old hat" Janssen (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, you're right. i was too simplistic. 6% on books & food, 17.5 on the rest. (...) Round here, we don't have locla brands, and the price is set by the government to be the same on all packets, everywhere. (...) Well, we buy _all_ oil from (...) (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wanna bet? Jasper "10 to 1" Janssen (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, but he did say 6% was for "vital sources". It sounded logical to me. :-) -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 16-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I mean that they can't print the information because it wouldn't make it through the legal department - it would draw dozens of libel suits. And although libel suits _are_ a necessary side-effect of any good journalism (my parents have (...) (26 years ago, 16-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 23:05:21 GMT, Jasper Janssen uttered the following profundities... (...) Well, discriminatory, I don't know. All I know is my parents are paying more as a result. 'Tis to pay for increased child allowance(1). The married people (...) (26 years ago, 16-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:32:42 GMT, Selçuk <teyyareci> uttered the following profundities... (...) In the UK, it is a flat, 17.5% on everything, except... natural gas (8%), and books*, children's clothes, and food, which is zero-rated(no tax). *books (...) (26 years ago, 16-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You have yet to learn, then, that logic and taxes simply don't mix. Frex, $10, 200 gramme bars of chocolate are taxed as vital, too. Jasper (26 years ago, 18-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But I don't _want_ to read Pride & prejudice or Shakespeare. I want to read Arthur C Clarke, or Asimov, or Auel, or Jordan, or Hell, even Williams and/or Eddings! Jasper 'same thing here, naturally" Janssen (26 years ago, 18-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, no, it's no longer getting something that is _only_ available to a) married couples, and therefore, II), to heterosexual couples. Not much difference between that and giving all blacks and/or non-blacks a tax break. Jasper (26 years ago, 18-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Careful, they may starting taxing "logic" itself. :-) (...) Chocolate is vital? Some would agree with that. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 19-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:52:31 GMT, Jasper Janssen uttered the following profundities... (...) Nor do I necessarily! But the killing off of the net-book agreement as a result was a good thing. (26 years ago, 20-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That reminds me, does anyone know if she(1) is ever going to finish the Clan of the Cave Bear series? What's it been, nine years since the last book was published? Jeff (1) You *do* mean Jean Auel, right? (26 years ago, 25-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did you like the series at the end? I haven't met anyone who's finished Plains of Passage (is that the right name?) since it was the final (hopefully) step of the descent into trashy romance novels. I _really_ like Clan of the Cave Bear, and (...) (26 years ago, 25-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am guilty of the above. I finished it. But your right, the series did go progressively downhill. I do believe I saw a new book in the series. A couple of months ago, I saw a new one at a mall bookstore. I glanced at it briefly, and thought I (...) (26 years ago, 26-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Naturally. I mean, well, _duh_. Of course chocolate is among the prime necessities, right along with plumbing. Jasper (26 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Apparently. If one goews by the mathematical formula, the gaps seem to increase quadratically, and the next book should be out in ~6 years... Jasper (26 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's not at barnesandnoble.com - sure you didn't see one of the earlier books in the series? Jasper (26 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I really don't think so. I read all the books, and I distinctly remember seeing the book, glancing quickly at it, and saying to myself "bout time" and to try to remember to check the library to see if it is in or on order. I am going that way (...) (26 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You overrate plumbing, my friend. Cheers, - jsproat (26 years ago, 14-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ack. I went to the bookstore I _thought_ I saw it at. No luck. I might be getting senile....... But not giving up yet. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 15-Apr-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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